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Things I Enjoyed:
+ The Guest Stars

Things I Didn't Really Enjoy:
+ The word "idjit"

Things That Were Alright:
+ Double Sam and Dean and Bobby

I really enjoyed the snark of the guest stars. I liked that the demon chained up in the basement was smart and snarky. And I loved the guy Bobby sent them to. "Ha.Ha. Is he always this stupid?" ... Yes, guy who probably has a name, he is.

And I sort of enjoyed seeing 'Dean' and 'Sam' murderin' folks all willy nilly. But. Their "we are bad and naughty and slightly evil" faces got a bit old after awhile. I know. Jared and Jensen are human and only have so many facial expressions. But, I have a headache and pms. So there.

I'm not sure if I liked the Doubles oh so casually talking out loud about Sam and Dean's flaws. On the one hand it was a bit amusing. On the other it wasn't that necessary.

I like that Sam found out about Amy. I did not care for his reaction.

I think that it was in character and the whole. "I can't even with you! I'm going to stomp and huff off now. Please secretly follow me and make it better."

However. What I would like to have seen is. Sam punching Dean in the face and saying something along the lines of, 'Stop, fucking lying to me. This isn't going to work if we can't talk.'

Oh! Crowley and the guy at the end (ps. where do I know him from?) I really enjoyed them together. I'd like to see more of them together.

This is the second time Dean's had to kill 'himself', right? Or has there been a third time I'm not remembering?

Aaaaaaaaaaaand. Bobby's an alcoholic? Really? I don't think so. Yes, he does drink but ... didn't he stop for awhile? I'm pretty sure he did. And I don't know if an alcholic can just STOP whenever they feel like it.

Even though there were a handful of things I disliked or that annoyed me, I really sort of enjoyed this episode.

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Okay. The main point of this post is ... Why did they name this episode Slash Fiction?

Guy gave Sam and Dean the alias of "Mr. and Mr. Smith.

Of which there will be a handful of "Well, we are newlywed, Sam. Let's go have our honeymoon." fictions written. (and if there isn't, that'll be disappointing)

And then. Double the amount of Winchesters for multiple pairings and such.

Just.

Was the title meant as a free pass for all the stories that will be written.

Did they mean slash in another way?

I don't get it. Though, to be fair. I'm really glad this is the episode that went with that title because I saw the title awhile back and was terrified that it was going to be another breaking the 4th wall episode.

Date: 2011-10-29 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwendolynmstacy.livejournal.com
I.. haven't watched in like 2 weeks (and probably won't for longer) but...

What I would like to have seen is. Sam punching Dean in the face and saying something along the lines of, 'Stop, fucking lying to me. This isn't going to work if we can't talk.'

Both of them at points of this show over the last couple of years have needed to punch the other in the face and then just be like 'talk it out, bitch, be a man'

Wait, there were evil! sam and dean? Did they make out? (I figure that's a no but still)

Date: 2011-10-29 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
Did they mean slash in another way?

I was thinking they were meaning it in the old slasher film way. Since the evil!Sam and evil!Dean were basically the psycho killer characters from slasher films. A few of those scenes felt like Natural Born Killers. Maybe not slasher film in the accepted sense, but in the pure sense of the words? Yeah. Definitely.

Date: 2011-10-29 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamie-love13.livejournal.com
LOL. Oh you. I love the word idjit. Slash Fiction is what producers and shit used to describe horror films with a lot of slashing of the knives back in the... mid 70's, maybe? I'm not sure when, or if it's entirely correct, but that's the gist of it.

Date: 2011-10-29 03:08 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ms-nerd.livejournal.com
HA!! Was it really called Slash Fiction? LOL. I'm still not watching but reading your recaps and nodding.

Date: 2011-10-29 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
It really was.

Date: 2011-10-29 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Heh. They didn't but they really should have.

Date: 2011-10-29 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Oh, that works. I figured there was something I was missing/forgetting

Date: 2011-10-29 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Ahh okay. But still. They know about slash fiction. So. I just. Is it a free pass. Go ahead and write the slash fic, we don't care anymore. Or more of a if we make it legal, they won't want it anymore?

Date: 2011-10-29 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cloex-brosluvr.livejournal.com
Why did they name this episode Slash Fiction?
Lol, I asked the same thing.

However. What I would like to have seen is. Sam punching Dean in the face and saying something along the lines of, 'Stop, fucking lying to me. This isn't going to work if we can't talk.'
I was hoping for a little Sma punching Dean moment there, too.

The police/FBI has thought Dean was dead in SKIN, both boys in JUS IN BELLO (unless Henricksen never sent that memo out, I'm not sure on that) and now both again.

Date: 2011-10-29 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
I'm sure they were fucking with fandom in a way, since they are aware slash fiction is so popular for this show. It's I don't run across many people who remember "slash" originally started out as a horror genre term. In fact, when I first heard about slash fiction (1994/95), I thought it was "slash" in that manner. I was like, "What kind of sick stories do you write about Mulder and Krycek, dude?" to a friend of mine. She was, "Uhh ... it doesn't mean what you think it does." After she explained, I went, "Oooh. *pause* So what kind of sick stories do you write about Mulder and Krycek, dude?"

Date: 2011-10-29 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
I have heard the term "slasher" but never just "slash" used that particular way.

Hahahahahah.

Date: 2011-10-29 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Apparently it's a slasher thing.

One day we'll get Sam punching Dean. One day. *crosses fingers*

That but I meant Dean actually killing himself. Which he did in Skin and ... what happened in Jus in Bello? I have no idea what episode that is. Both boys killed their doubles?

Date: 2011-10-29 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cloex-brosluvr.livejournal.com
That but I meant Dean actually killing himself. Which he did in Skin and ... what happened in Jus in Bello? I have no idea what episode that is. Both boys killed their doubles?
nevermind what I said...I thought you meant how many times do the police think they're dead, SORRY. *facepalm*

Date: 2011-10-29 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deutschtard.livejournal.com
Haven't seen the episode, but when I think of it, i think "Truth, slash fiction"

or like and slash or(and/or), and they just wrote it out? Idk. maybe when I see it I'll be able to make better sense of it?

Date: 2011-10-29 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwendolynmstacy.livejournal.com
I figured they wouldn't. But, ah well, at least they got to have evil doubles. but even that's getting kinda.. recycled.

Date: 2011-10-29 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
It is. But I don't think they've ever been evil together and that's what makes it so NEW and REFRESHING! :p

Date: 2011-10-29 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
No need for sorrys.

Date: 2011-10-29 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Apparently it has to do with old timey "slasher" films. But like not quite horror slasher. Something.

Date: 2011-10-29 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwendolynmstacy.livejournal.com
hahahaha you're right, you're right but it's been done before.... in fanfic :P dun dun dun

Date: 2011-10-29 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
And was there "slash" in this fanfiction?

Date: 2011-10-29 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwendolynmstacy.livejournal.com
...both type meanings, if you want to look at it that way, yes. :P

Date: 2011-10-29 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] framedhim.livejournal.com
"I can't even with you! I'm going to stomp and huff off now. Please secretly follow me and make it better."

Ok, so I laughed during the ep. and now here. Because Sam definitely paused for the 'nooo,please don't go,' and the writers want Sam to be a girl. That is all I can come up with. Scratch that, because many women I know wouldn't pause. They wouldn't throw a punch either but mentally, Dean's balls would be twisty-tied. S'all I'm sayin'.

I may have died of love forever with that glorious bitch fest between Crowley and Leviathan Dick. Rawr. Crowley brought muffins...his writer loves him and knows my heart.

Well, the diner scene was Pulp Fiction, Bobby even called them the names of the characters from the movie. But the slash, idk. Lots of things I saw in the episode screamed 'we read and check your lj's'. Like the 'my little pony' squeaky thing, I know I've seen those on other's accts.


Date: 2011-10-29 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
I may have died of love forever with that glorious bitch fest between Crowley and Leviathan Dick.

They were great together. I'm hoping for lots of more them together.

Date: 2011-10-29 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinkabell007.livejournal.com
I would have LOVED to see Sam punching Dean and knocking him down to his ass. Dean would have deserved it so much. If roles were reversed, Sam would be spotting a bloody nose right now.

I don't get the title at all. Usually it's pretty clear what the title's referring to. But this time? No effing clue. :-/

Date: 2011-10-29 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muses-circle.livejournal.com
While I completely forgot to watch this episode last night (imagine that *snerk*), I'll go find it because I want to see Sam's reaction....as lame as it sounds.

And I don't know if an alcholic can just STOP whenever they feel like it.

Actually, they can...sort of. When my dad was actively drinking, he stopped cold turkey for about a year. Just like that. Unfortunately, he eventually picked it back up. I don't know if it was a conscious effort to stop, however. It can just be part of the disease.

Date: 2011-10-29 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slytherinblack.livejournal.com
Ditto, and I was trying to figure out if that was the reference or not. I figured there was a nudge at fandom there, I just couldn't figure out the other reference.
I'm really bad at puns so I wasn't sure if I was missing something.

Date: 2011-10-29 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] essene.livejournal.com
The "Slash Fiction" is also a play off of "Pulp Fiction"= the diner scene and Dean and Sam them being Hunny Bunny and Pumpkin.

I guess I see Bobby as a more "high functioning drunk" i.e., he drinks all the time, but can still get shit done--until he isn't needed anymore for a job then he gets all maudlin and wasted and "blackout drunk"

Date: 2011-10-29 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Yeah, I too could see Bobby as a high functioning alcoholic.

Date: 2011-10-29 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
As much as I try to avoid any and all spoilers, a couple of times I saw Jensen talking about making some scene more "manly" (different words were used but yeah) and I think the scene of Sam walking away in a huff was the one he was referring. How that makes it more "manly" instead of Sam punching Dean in the face and saying 'Screw, you!' I don't know.

Ooh, Okay. Still. I honestly don't know if I'd say that Bobby was an alcoholic. Obviously he is because Show said he was but yeah.

Date: 2011-10-29 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
If roles were reversed, Sam would be spotting a bloody nose right now

How true and sad that is.

It's been explained to me. The title thing, but I still don't really get it.

Date: 2011-10-29 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
They should have gone with a title that we all could have gotten!

Date: 2011-10-29 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slytherinblack.livejournal.com
And people who aren't in fandom will be doubly confused!

Date: 2011-10-29 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurondo.livejournal.com
I know. Jared and Jensen are human and only have so many facial expressions. But, I have a headache and pms. So there.

Hahah

Date: 2011-10-29 09:42 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-10-30 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
A friend I know who's big into horror pointed me to the Slash Film Festival. They premiere a lot of independent horror films in that vein: http://slashfilmfestival.com/. Also, she made the comment about "Slash Fiction" mimicking Pulp Fiction's title. So ... I think it's that they're fucking with fandom but playing on the old horror genre term with the subject matter of the episode.

Date: 2011-10-30 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muses-circle.livejournal.com
Bobby has never struck me as being an alcoholic on the show, ever. The only time I wondered if he was beginning to hit the bottle too much was at the very beginning of season 4, when Dean is brought back from the dead. But even there, I figured Bobby was using the booze to try and dull his grief.

I dunno, dude. Show makes no kind of sense, even on the "insane troll logic" scene. I give up trying to put a logical spin on it these days.

Date: 2011-10-30 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nikibee.livejournal.com
I agree with all of this. Sam's bitchfest, all the good points, all the not so good points, why was it called slash, etc, etc.

And you know Crowley because he's in all ur fandomz!

He is Dodger in Firefly, Canton Everett Delaware III in Doctor Who, and a bunch of other people in a bunch of other fandom related shows.

Date: 2011-10-30 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Hee. I know Crowley, but where do I know the guy Crowley was talking to?

Date: 2011-10-31 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nikibee.livejournal.com
Ahhh, I have no clue about that. He didn't look familiar to me. =/

Date: 2011-10-31 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Turns out I know him from here and there but the main thing would be CSI.

Date: 2011-11-01 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenheart.livejournal.com
What I would like to have seen is. Sam punching Dean in the face and saying something along the lines of, 'Stop, fucking lying to me. This isn't going to work if we can't talk.'
Me too!!!

I enjoyed this episode, and I never saw Bobby as an alcoholic either...

I think they named the episode "Slash Fiction to torture the fandom :P

I really like your Supernatural reviews you know? :*

Date: 2011-11-01 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
I think they just made that Bobby as an alcoholic up for the episode.

Even though it's been explained to me that it has to do with films like Natural Born Killers and is also a take on Pulp Fiction. I still believe that it was at least a little bit to torture fandom.

Aww, thanks. A lot of people have stopped reading them because they are full of snark and bitters

Date: 2011-11-01 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenheart.livejournal.com
I hope so.

Humm...I didn't knew about that, me will google this movie and see if I get the conection. Yep, at least a little bit.

That's why I love your reviews, you say what you think and that's it. I really like that!!

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