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My favouritest bits of tonight's ep were the trailers for The Losers and Kick-Ass.  I WANTS TO SEE THEM NAO!
Second favourite would be those tampon commercials. "Oh, that's what's supposed to happen."  Hahahahah. *ahem*

spoilers for tonigth's ep.
Zachariah: As if you could outrun me. As if you could fight me off. ... Dammit, I knew I shouldn't have watched that blasted Twilight. What I meant was, you can run you just can't run.'

Mary [and/or] Gachnar: They’re all going to abandon you, you know.

Ellen Degeneres: But as nice as Heck* might be (and in all honesty, it's not thast nice), it's nowhere as good as being in Heaven. Oddly enough, when somebody does somthing nice, nobody ever says, "Go to Heaven!" I guess that's because a person would have to die before they went to Heaven. Saying "Go to Heaven" is like saying "Drop dead" but with a positive spin.

*Heck, for those that haven't read the book or full quote is a suburb of Hell. It's a bit nicer, there are Dairy Queens and you don't have to pay as much for car insurance.

I kinda enjoyed the ep. Maybe? I don't know that we really needed 40+ minutes to tell us, "Ehh, God don't really care. Maybe he's on tour, perhaps he's playing skee ball, I dunno and you shouldn't care."  On the other hand, I really enjoyed Joshua. And it was nice to see Ash and Pamela.

Wow, Dean's a whiny jealous jilted lover, eh?

It seemed to me that a lot of Dean's memories/Heaven were, "La la, hi MOM. I WUV YOU and sandwiches!"  And they made Sam sad and uncomfortable but tough titties for Sam because Dean was going to roll around in his memories/Heaven.

Sam's memories/Heaven seemed to be mostly, "Yee haw. I are on my own now, bitches. And I gots me a dog."  And these made Dean upset and angry and so fuck that noise we are leaving NOW!

I dunno, I'm not sure if I was supposed to see it as Dean always getting/having his way and being a big fat woobie woe is me type or not but I did. And Sam. Sam's all, 'Hey, I know I fucked up. I know I hurt you. I'm trying to say sorry, I'm trying to make amends." And then Dean's all, 'Uh, whatever Sammy. I wonder what's going on with Cas now,  you know Cas ... of course you know Cas. I rarely go a minute without talking about him and he used to be around all the time. God, I miss him. I just, I just wish he'd tell me what to do."

RAAAAAAAAAWR.

Seriously. I have issues and I KNOW I'M BIASED, I do. I just really fucking hate it and get all roar and ragey when I remember Dean's, "You chose a demon over your own brother." and then he turns around and does WHATEVER THE FUCK CASTIEL TELLS HIM. And I don't give a fuck that CASTIEL is a fucking ANGEL.

Right. Anyhoo ....

I liked Yellow-Eyed Mary. Not the words that she said, cos clearly that was bullshit but I liked that she wasn't all sugary sweet motherly or something. She was a bit tough and I liked that because with her history, I'm sure she had a pair.

And okay. The end. Dean throwing away the necklace. The fuck was that all about?

I want Sam to punch Dean in the face. Hard.

Dean wants this all to stop. Sam's standing right there asking how he can help. And Dean keeps pushing him away.

If Sam does say, "Yes" and Dean's reaction is anything but 'Huh, I think this is my fault.' I'm going to stab him in the face.

In conclusion Sam's 'I gots a doggy' slice of heaven confirmed to me that a Supernatural/Littlest Hobo crossover would be epic and amazing.

Date: 2010-04-02 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwendolynmstacy.livejournal.com
I want Sam to punch Dean in the face. Hard.Dean wants this all to stop. Sam's standing right there asking how he can help. And Dean keeps pushing him away.If Sam does say, "Yes" and Dean's reaction is anything but 'Huh, I think this is my fault.'

I gots nothing to say other than TOTALLY AGREED. Also? That shot of Castiel near the end he looked kinda like 'huh. my faith is gone. I am a blank canvas' or some such.

Also? Ash's angel tracker was kinda sorta like the newsletter but I want it in print ;/

I awwwed over the doggie. Too cute.
Edited Date: 2010-04-02 03:02 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-02 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muses-circle.livejournal.com
I want Sam to punch Dean in the face. Hard.

Dean wants this all to stop. Sam's standing right there asking how he can help. And Dean keeps pushing him away.

If Sam does say, "Yes" and Dean's reaction is anything but 'Huh, I think this is my fault.' I'm going to stab him in the face.


What's that whole 'self-fulfilling prophesy' thing all about? That's Dean. Sam still wants to fight and Dean's all "WTF-ever. I don't give a shit." If Sam gives up, well won't some of that be Dean's fault because he never listens to his brother?

Sam's so going to say YES, and Dean'll be Mr. Woobie 'it's-all-my-fault'. And I'll hold him down while you stab.

Date: 2010-04-02 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annabeth.livejournal.com
That is such a good point. Dean really never DOES listen to Sam. Like, ever. And yet Sam keeps trying. And yet. GAH.

Date: 2010-04-02 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muses-circle.livejournal.com
Since Day One, Dean hasn't listened to Sam. It's one of the few constants of this series - one that I wish the writers would work on Dean learning to do because MY GOD it's gotten old. Like, three seasons ago...

Date: 2010-04-02 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annabeth.livejournal.com
It's gotten old like Dean's-angst-is-important-and-Sam's-isn't old.

Date: 2010-04-02 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muses-circle.livejournal.com
YES. I literally wanted to put my fist into the episode and hit Dean repeatedly for what he was doing to Sam.

Date: 2010-04-02 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annabeth.livejournal.com
OMG THANK YOU. Just the in-general feeling I always get from fandom that Dean is right and Sam is just a fuck-up has been driving me crazy, and Show just reinforces it. Sam's happy memories were what they were because, like he said, he didn't get the sandwiches and the loving mother, he got the militan father and good-soldier older brother and he has PROVEN that he loves Dean and wants him AND ISN'T LEAVING HIM ANYMORE but Dean just keeps ignoring all that and clinging to his angst.

GET A CLUE, DEAN, YOU HAVE TO LET IT GO -- that's why you're losing hope. And yeah, I think we see why Sam will say yes now. Because Dean is just driving him further and further away and closer to that point.

Date: 2010-04-02 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muses-circle.livejournal.com
TBH I've never understood fandom and its hatred towards Sam. It's been like that since Day One, and with Castiel's addition and the total fuckup that was season four, it's gotten 20 times worse. Dean's just as to blame as Sam for the state they're in, and yet fandom always takes Dean's side. ALWAYS. Dean's perpetual "woe is me/my angst is more valuable than Sam's happy memories" storyline is old. There comes a point in time when a person has to let that crap go. Seems, however, that this is Dean's driving force, his motivation to live.

Sam loves Dean. How many times does the guy have to SHOW HIS BROTHER THAT? ARGH!

Because Dean is just driving him further and further away and closer to that point.

*nods* I've seen that coming for about...oh, two seasons now. :(

Date: 2010-04-02 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geminigrl11.livejournal.com
Dean wants this all to stop. Sam's standing right there asking how he can help. And Dean keeps pushing him away.

If Sam does say, "Yes" and Dean's reaction is anything but 'Huh, I think this is my fault.' I'm going to stab him in the face.


THIS. DAMMIT!!!

Date: 2010-04-02 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goingtoqueens.livejournal.com
You do bring up a good point. I get that he and Sam never really dealt with the fact that Sam was ALWAYS LEAVING HIM, but Sam never really got to deal with his shit, either. It doesn't matter that he got to run off. Dean is stubborn, so he can't really let go of all the shit that happened, but Sam is stubborn to, and he won't stop trying. This is all going to end in a HUGE FIGHT, probably, and then things will slowly get better, I guess. SIGH, this show. So emotional.

Date: 2010-04-02 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurondo.livejournal.com
That tampon commercial always makes me lol.

Date: 2010-04-02 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fromyourashes.livejournal.com

It seemed to me that a lot of Dean's memories/Heaven were, "La la, hi MOM. I WUV YOU and sandwiches!" And they made Sam sad and uncomfortable but tough titties for Sam because Dean was going to roll around in his memories/Heaven.

Sam's memories/Heaven seemed to be mostly, "Yee haw. I are on my own now, bitches. And I gots me a dog." And these made Dean upset and angry and so fuck that noise we are leaving NOW!


Yes! That's exactly how most of fandom is going to see it, too. Who cares about Sam? Who cares that Sam never had an instant of normalcy and safety until he got away? Who cares that, despite losing Dean countless times, Sam still manages to TRY and be optimistic. Who cares? Cuz Dean and Castiel are in PAIN. EPIC PAIN. (I can't lie, though; Castiel finally evoked some emotion from me.)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaash made me happier than he did when he was actually on the show. I forgot how much I loved Ash. :D

Date: 2010-04-02 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apey1013.livejournal.com
It felt like neither character really evolved in the episode. Yes, Dean, your life is shit and you miss your mommy who never lived long enough for you to have bitchy teenager fights with, we get it. Yes, Sammy, you want to feel normal and like a person who can take care of themselves and not the kid that pouts in the corner while Daddy gets shitfaced. So, Dean, you need to really for reals understand that Sam needs more overt displays of affection & attempts at normalcy and to feel like his own person and not a helpless baby. And Sam, you need to just start regurgitating happy memories about Life with Dean-o so he feels wuvved. Can we move on?

I just enjoyed watching Samantha play evil. You could tell she was loving it.

Yeah, the necklace. I hope Sam picks it up and tucks it somewhere. Not just because of its meaning but also because, y'know, it's usually good to not throw away powerful talismans in hotel trashcans

If Sam does say, "Yes" and Dean's reaction is anything but 'Huh, I think this is my fault.' I'm going to stab him in the face. WORD.

a Supernatural/Littlest Hobo crossover would be epic and amazing. I approve. I want to know how old Sammy the runaway was. I hope he was younger than teenage and rockin' the lovable homeless scamp look.

Oh, and I did enjoy Dean's declaration at the beginning there that he knew he wouldn't stay dead and that he planned to come after Roy or whatever his name was. Hee hee.
Edited Date: 2010-04-02 04:20 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-02 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lotrabc.livejournal.com
Hmm, I do see what you're saying, because it did seem like we are supposed to focus on Dean's pain, and it's tantamount to Sam's issues, so forget them, but...I feel like this was a realization ep for Sam.

Dean is doing what he always does--lashing out because he's hurt deep down, because he can't separate the idea that Sam wanted to leave their lifestyle/John's control from the idea that Sam wanted to leave him. But the key to this ep, I thought, was Sam realizing that that's how Dean perceives things.

It kind of does marginalize Sam's feelings some, but also, I think it's setting him up to do something really huge for Dean. Of which I approve.

Date: 2010-04-02 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agt-league.livejournal.com
Zachariah: As if you could outrun me. As if you could fight me off. ... Dammit, I knew I shouldn't have watched that blasted Twilight. What I meant was, you can run you just can't run.'

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHH they should've totes made him say that instead of whatever corny line he said. LOLOLOL.

I don't know that we really needed 40+ minutes to tell us, "Ehh, God don't really care. Maybe he's on tour, perhaps he's playing skee ball, I dunno and you shouldn't care." On the other hand, I really enjoyed Joshua. And it was nice to see Ash and Pamela.

Yeah I was a bit meh about how they dragged it on but I did like this ep MUCH better than last weeks. And Joshua is FTW. Same with Ash and Pamela even though I don't really care that much about Pamela, lmao.


It seemed to me that a lot of Dean's memories/Heaven were, "La la, hi MOM. I WUV YOU and sandwiches!" And they made Sam sad and uncomfortable but tough titties for Sam because Dean was going to roll around in his memories/Heaven.

Sam's memories/Heaven seemed to be mostly, "Yee haw. I are on my own now, bitches. And I gots me a dog." And these made Dean upset and angry and so fuck that noise we are leaving NOW!


Pretty much! XD

YED!Mary is awesome, for real. <3333333

Date: 2010-04-06 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giantlovetingle.livejournal.com
... tell the truth. Did you think of the witty text yourself or did you copy/paste Smidge? ;D

Date: 2010-04-06 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agt-league.livejournal.com
Copy/paste is my FRIEND, yo! It's all in her entry, lmao.

Date: 2010-04-06 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giantlovetingle.livejournal.com
CHEATER CHEATER PUMPKIN EATER.

Date: 2010-04-06 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agt-league.livejournal.com
WHATEVERRRRRRR, SLUT. ;P

Date: 2010-04-06 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giantlovetingle.livejournal.com
Zachariah: As if you could outrun me. As if you could fight me off.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT [profile] agt_league TEXTED ME WHEN I WATCHED THE EPISODE. LMAO. I also love how Dean always ends up being Bella :D

I liked Joshua as well. I can't exactly place .. why. He was just, really likeable :D

I want Sam to get angry about Dean chucking the necklace. YELL AND SCREAM AND THROW A HISSY FIT AND CALL DEAN OUT ON HIS BULLSHIT. Or at the very least, get it out of the trash and keep it in his jacket pocket and stroke it fondly.

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