schmeta

[certainthings]

I don't read a lot of meta when it comes to Supernatural or any show really because, wow, it's really wordy (most of the time). And who has the time for that? And thinky thought words at that too. Ouch. Plus, the few times when I do read it, it always seems to be about how Shiny and Perfect Dean Winchester is and booo to that shit. But then there are times when I wish I had the words and thinky thoughts to write meta and have people read it and say, 'Ahhh' in an Eddie Izzard type voice but I hardly ever do. Then again, I do love looking for the Buffy Quote that fits the scene. The homage to Buffy that was done and how Buffy did it so much better. Because I am a biased bitch.

I read some meta the other and it was All About Dean. There are spoilers for 5x01 under the cut but nothing beyond that.

I don't remember where the meta was and I don't remember much of what I read other than how it was about Dean being Angry and how was Right to be Angry. Which, okay. Maybe he's allowed to be a bit angry but I really fucking hope that we learn that a lot of his anger towards Sam is actually directed at himself. He is aware that he (Mr Pefect 'Pin a Gold Ribbon on His Chest' Wincester) helped start the apocolypse, right? Seriously, I'm asking. I have a vague memory of Zachariah? Some other angel? A demon? telling him that his breaking the seal down in hell was what got the ball rolling.

If Dean (and/or Castiel and/or Bobby) are just all on board with Blaming Sam and pointing fingers at him and shitting on him ... I'm going to be really fucking pissed.

My hope for this season is that Castiel plays along with Dean and Sam but secretly he's kind of evil. We learn that him (Castiel) and Ruby were lovers and they were both playing Sam and Dean. They both wanted Lucifer to rise and now that he's all risen Castiel's mission is to seek revenge (on Deaaaaaan mostly) for killing his girl.

*crosses fingers*

- please don't spoil me for any upcoming eps.

Comments

[fromyourashes.livejournal.com]

We learn that him (Castiel) and Ruby were lovers and they were both playing Sam and Dean. They both wanted Lucifer to rise and now that he's all risen Castiel's mission is to seek revenge (on Deaaaaaan mostly) for killing his girl.

I read that fic, right?

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Perhaps.

[bitterbird.livejournal.com]

YES WORD! I want Dean to admit this is partly his fault too. Also not only did Dean break the first seal but he was ok with killing Lilith as well so he is far from blameless

I want evil!Castiel now!!!

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Evil!Castiel would be a much better Castiel.

[lotrabc.livejournal.com]

I now intensely want evil!Castiel. Not the least of which is b/c it will culminate in his death. Bah, if they don't at least bring up him letting Sam out of the panic room...*Shakes head*

And Dean...I love your sense of loyalty and right and wrong, but...LET YOUR BROTHER TALK.

I agree with the comments above: Fandom AND Dean need to remember he was the original Sam!girl.

[gwendolynmstacy.livejournal.com]

I knowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. It's just like, 'fuck it, angels are helping me so I must be right; or some variation of that and whatnot. He also had no problem going to kill Lilith neways too, so I reiterate, wtf, man?

\o/ *g*

[gwendolynmstacy.livejournal.com]

This true at least then there would be a plausible reason as to why I dislike his face and at least if he were I could feel somewhat neutral about it all. Or at least tolerate him because during this ep I was seething.

[lembeau.livejournal.com]

You know how pissed off I was at Dean and the writers at the end of the premiere, so yeah. Dean knows and remembers that he broke the first seal and he needs to tell Sam, but this is SPN, so that means the writers need the aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaangst to last a couple of eps.

Out of all of the meta that I read, I liked musesfool's the best. Yes, Sam should be abjectly apologizing to everyone he meets for a while [because he started the apocalypse], and yes, Dean should be resentful and hurt and be allowed to express that, and Sam is going to have to deal with that for a while, but it's not just Sam's fault, and I hope the writers allow Dean to bear some responsibility for it, instead of taking the all-too-familiar fannish tack of heaping all the blame on one character and sanctifying the other.

As I said to her in the comments: I just want them both to realize that they were being set up for this from the very beginning and they were both wrong. They just need to get that through their freaking thick heads.

We learn that him (Castiel) and Ruby were lovers

Dude, I already wrote you Dean/Ruby, I don't think I can do that. :OP

[alwaysenduphere.livejournal.com]

I like this idea. Although I think Sam should just be like, "Well. Huh." And then they should stop fighting because well, the blame is on them both.

[oreius.livejournal.com]

Alistair told Dean he was the first seal, did the whole and it is written when a righteous man breaks blah blah. Castiel confirmed it, and then Zachariah threw it in his face in Lucifer Rising. It really does piss me off that Dean is all mad at Sam for setting him free. I mean, ugh, I get that Dean being tortured in Hell was hard and yeah it was easier to break down there, but IDK. I think Sam being alone without Dean for those four months might have been worse than what Dean went through, like that whole loss of a loved one and feeling like it's your fault can really fuck you up. So this woe is Dean bs annoys the shit out of me.

ALSO, WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO FIND OUT THAT CASTIEL SET SAM FREE???? AND WHY ISN'T CASTIEL BLAMING HIMSELF FOR THAT? FUCKING BLAMING SAM/DEAN FOR DESTROYING THE WORLD WHEN HE COULD HAVE KEPT IT FROM HAPPENING. Excuse my caps, but ugh.

Like someone said up there, I'm going to be really pissed if Dean never comes clean about breaking the first seal.

Also, can Castiel please be evil so I can actually hate him. I want to hate him so bad, but damnit, I just can't 'cause he's so badass. BLAH.

[bouncywild.livejournal.com]

My hope for this season is that Castiel plays along with Dean and Sam but secretly he's kind of evil. We learn that him (Castiel) and Ruby were lovers and they were both playing Sam and Dean. They both wanted Lucifer to rise and now that he's all risen Castiel's mission is to seek revenge (on Deaaaaaan mostly) for killing his girl.

That's the only way I'd suddenly like Castiel. ;)

[bouncywild.livejournal.com]

It bugs me that Dean "going to hell" is held over Sam's head. I don't believe Dean's actions were entirely selfless; he felt he'd failed Sam and this was his way of making amends, but not once did he factor in leaving Sam alone a year later, leaving him with this terrible burden of his "powers", not even considering what losing Dean would do to Sam. It's all about making Dean feel better about Dean and then, when Sam screws up, give Sam the biggest load of shit for it. And CONSTANTLY. Before? It would be forgotten over a beer. But now it's Dean throwing everything back in Sam's face when Dean is ALWAYS doing wrong and making mistakes. He's completely selfish in his actions, he doesn't want to own up to making his own mistakes and be judged for it, even though the breaking the seal thing? NOT ENTIRELY his fault, considering the circumstances and him being TORTURED.

The way I see it is Sam's never going to be on an equal playing field with Dean, not where certain people are concerned. Sam makes a friend in Ruby and is betrayed, and Sam comes out of it as the biggest douchebag ever. Dean makes a friend in Castiel who, in his own way, is deceitful and has a hand in turning Dean against Sam, and Dean and Castiel come out of it as BFF and neither can do wrong.

What I haven't seen, hand to God, is any of this kind of reaction for Sam from someone who is ultimately more of a Dean fan; all I've seen are the outcries from the Sam fans.

I didn't mean to vent. Again!

[heizqu.livejournal.com]

We learn that him (Castiel) and Ruby were lovers and they were both playing Sam and Dean. They both wanted Lucifer to rise and now that he's all risen Castiel's mission is to seek revenge (on Deaaaaaan mostly) for killing his girl.

HAHAHAH that would be EPIC.

[ongiara.livejournal.com]

I'd like to think heaps of Dean's anger is directed at himself because, evidently, they all played their parts in bringin about the apocalypse. Maybe the guy just needs longer to step off this high horse and admit to himself that he let himself be used just as much as Sam did.
I do find it impressive how Dean has resisted Sam's sad puppy eyes for now, though. It's almost cruel. They need to hug this out asap.

[abydosww.livejournal.com]

Dude, I have been saying this all along. I am so sick of Dean and his "I am so perfect" routine. I have to say Dean's holier than thou attitude is a little sickening and such hypocrisy.

[bubl.livejournal.com]

I don't get this either. Sure Sam did the last bit, but Dean did the first bit! And there were fuckups from both of them along the way. Sure sure demon blood whatever, but Sam shouldn't have to shoulder the blame.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

They really need to talk to each other and LISTEN to each other. Ugh.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Someone needs to cut that boy down a little.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

It had better be directed at himself or at least some of it but right now? It doesn't seem like it is and that bothers me. A lot.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

And maybe there'd be flashback scenes of Castiel and Ruby together. Plotting and scheming.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

AMEN.

I like your venting.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

He'd be a much better character, I think if this were the storyline.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

These are the issues that show needs to / should address. But no. It's more about how AWESOME "Cas" is and how buddy buddy him and Dean are. Ugh.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

I just want them both to realize that they were being set up for this from the very beginning and they were both wrong.

Yes. This.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Castiel letting Sam out of his cage had better come up and shit had better hit the fan.