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- But why wouldn't Samuel want his wife back? I know he was possessed at the time but did he enjoy the kiss *that* much with his daughter?

- From what I've read I was among the few who found Castiel watching porn amusing. But what I really enjoyed was Dean saying "You don't watch porn in a room full of dudes." When not that long ago Dean and Sam were watching The Trickster's porn together. So, I guess it's all right for just Dean and Sam to watch together but no third parties.

- I didn't understand Sam and Castiel's fight. If I remember correctly, Sam said something about Castiel owing him. For what? I was hoping that Sam was going to say, 'I'll tell Dean that you're the one that let me out to kill Lilith." because apparently I'm still delusional and naive enough to think that they're going to learn the truth on the show.

- I got a bit weepy when Crowley died.

- Like a few others I also thought that Sam was drinking his own blood to go all RAWR so he could go save Dean. I guess what he did do was good but uh, how much blood was used? Seemed like quite a bit and yeah ... you'd think with that kind of blood loss he'd be at least a bit woozy.

- Even though I don't care for Castiel or Meg, I kind of enjoyed their making out tiems.

- Angel: Yeah, and you look like hell. Not the fun one, where they burn you with hot pokers for all eternity, but the hardcore one, you know, Nixon and Britney Spears?

- Based on that, clearly both Dean and Sam were (are) in the fun hell. *shrugs* I'm thinking Sam's soul would be fine if they shoved it back in him.

- Oh! I don't normally like het (on this show) and like I said above I'm not that fussy on Meg but based on words that were said (I don't remember what they were) I'm fairly certain that Meg and Dean had some hot kinky hardcore rough sexy tiems while in hell and I kind of enjoy that image

Date: 2010-12-04 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] later-tuesday.livejournal.com
From what I've read I was among the few who found Castiel watching porn amusing.

I thought almost everyone found that amusing. I laughed so hard I scared my cats.

I got a bit weepy when Crowley died.

I can't believe they did it. So not expected. Still think he's coming back though.

Date: 2010-12-04 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] overstreets.livejournal.com
I was hoping that Sam was going to say, 'I'll tell Dean that you're the one that let me out to kill Lilith." because apparently I'm still delusional and naive enough to think that they're going to learn the truth on the show.

Ahhhh I still want this to happen, but yeah, it seems unlikely now.

Date: 2010-12-04 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Apparently not. At least in my neck of lj, it wasn't found amusing by a lot.

I hope he is. Maybe be all, "I'm the king of hell, bitches. You think that fire can hurt me? How stupid are you?"

Date: 2010-12-04 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
It does seem unlikely and yet ...

Date: 2010-12-04 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fromyourashes.livejournal.com
- But why wouldn't Samuel want his wife back? I know he was possessed at the time but did he enjoy the kiss *that* much with his daughter?


You don't have kids, lol. You'd choose your kid over your wife a million times over; it wouldn't even be a question.


- From what I've read I was among the few who found Castiel watching porn amusing. But what I really enjoyed was Dean saying "You don't watch porn in a room full of dudes." When not that long ago Dean and Sam were watching The Trickster's porn together. So, I guess it's all right for just Dean and Sam to watch together but no third parties.


A. I laughed SO FUCKING HARD I thought I pulled something. Seriously, actual stitch from dying of laughter.

B. YES. SAME THOUGHT. I was all, "You mean you don't watch porn in front of people you're not FUCKING, right?" But he couldn't very well say that to Castiel, now, could he? I THINK HE COULD. I think he should.

IDK what the fight was really about, but...hearing Castiel call Sam "boy" excited me for reasons I don't care to admit. :/ I think it's my Jared/Misha kink deciding not to care that Jared and Misha are not Sam and Castiel.

Crowley. :( NOT ENOUGH FROWN IN THAT FROWNY FACE THERE. I am frowning IRL right now, pouting and everything, man. I LOVE CROWLEY. SIGH. SIGH. SIGH.


- Like a few others I also thought that Sam was drinking his own blood to go all RAWR so he could go save Dean. I guess what he did do was good but uh, how much blood was used? Seemed like quite a bit and yeah ... you'd think with that kind of blood loss he'd be at least a bit woozy.


Again, I copy you. As soon as they panned to the ceiling, I thought, "Well, I guess he's just gonna have to drain that demon to replenish himself." Maybe he did?

Castiel and Meg is delicious, actually.

Agreed on the Meg/Dean thing on all counts. MY GOSH, I LIKE YOUR BRAIN.

Date: 2010-12-04 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irishcookie.livejournal.com

You don't have kids, lol. You'd choose your kid over your wife a million times over; it wouldn't even be a question.

I was going to say something similar. I don't have kids but if I did - they would be chosen before my husband/partner without blinking. I am sure he would do the same.

Also Castiel + Porn = LMFAO

Date: 2010-12-04 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
All right, if you say so.

Dean should tell Castiel that though they have a special bond together that his bond with Sam is even more special.

Sam and Castiel's fight seemed out of the blue and didn't make a lot of sense.

If Sam did drain the demon(s) ... and they didn't show that I'm going to be very upset. Or just a little upset.

My brain likes yours as well.

Date: 2010-12-04 08:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] spinfrog.livejournal.com
You don't have kids, lol. You'd choose your kid over your wife a million times over; it wouldn't even be a question.

I totally third that! And it's not because he doesn't love the wife, but because he does love her and knows that she ~wants~ him to choose the kids.

Date: 2010-12-04 08:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] faunaana.livejournal.com
What I don't get is choosing Mary over Sam and Dean. I mean, given how insistent Grampa was about loving his daughter, doesn't it seem a given that Mary would feel the same about Sam and Dean? And doesn't it follow that she might be, oh I don't know, PISSED OFF that her father fucked over her sons?

IDK, I think its a weak reason for Grampa to be working with Crowley because its so easily pulled down like a house of cards. blah.

Date: 2010-12-05 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agt-league.livejournal.com
I don't understand why Samuel wouldn't want his wife back either. Wtf.

Who didn't find Castiel watching porn amusing? It totally was.

Date: 2010-12-05 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Apparently, parents would choose their children over their spouses anytime no questions asked.

Quite a few people, actually. Hmm.

Date: 2010-12-05 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bigmamag.livejournal.com
I know he was possessed at the time but did he enjoy the kiss *that* much with his daughter?

This is the Winchester family. Of course he enjoyed it that much. :P

I enjoyed Sam and Castiel's fight. It made me remember that Castiel can be a bad ass, which I haven't believed since the first couple of episodes of the fourth season. And Crowley shall be missed, though in the last couple of episodes he had gotten a bit repetitive and that terrible pun he used at the beginning sort of told me that his time was up. :/

Date: 2010-12-05 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agt-league.livejournal.com
Huh. Interesting.

Date: 2010-12-05 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Which pun was that?

Date: 2010-12-05 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bigmamag.livejournal.com
The "whoops, lost my head" one when he cut the shapeshifter's head off. :)

Date: 2010-12-05 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fromyourashes.livejournal.com
Yeah, I don't get that, either. If he DOES get her back, she's likely to send her father to Hell for that one. Men are stupid, that's pretty much all I've got.

He IS right, though, in saying that Sam and Dean are nothing to him and that of course he'd choose Mary. He's just not thinking it through at all, lol.

Date: 2010-12-05 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fromyourashes.livejournal.com
Well, MOST parents, I assume. It's TV land, where parents love their kids, LOL. If we were talking the real world - I know certain parents who would choose their spouses over their kids. But in SPN land...well. Actually, IDK that John would choose the kids over Mary, would he? Did we ever have an instance where he had to make that choice (other than the obvious, where he sacrificed a normal existence for his kids in order to avenge his wife)?

Dean should tell Castiel that though they have a special bond together that his bond with Sam is even more special.

Yeah, that would be really nice, at some point, for Dean to mention that no matter what shitstorm they have to wade through, Sam is and always will be his number one priority.

Sam and Castiel's fight seemed out of the blue and didn't make a lot of sense.

I want to get at least ONE episode where they do some flashing back to Sam's year alone. Maybe somewhere in that year Castiel DID approach Sam (and didn't mention it to Dean...maybe) and they had some epic fight that will explain the odd tension. Holy crap, what I wouldn't give for flashbacks to Sam being deliciously badass and smirky and bloody and Mystery-Spot-ish.

If Sam did drain the demon(s) ... and they didn't show that I'm going to be very upset. Or just a little upset.

Ok. Remember the ropes? I forget which episode, cuz after season 3 I forgot to remember the names of episodes, lol. Sam was tied down after Castiel felt up his insides, and he just...got free? Was that a "powers" thing, or is he just a super-boy scout now and knows how to loosen knots? I'm HOPING it was a powers thing and that he's still doing the blood thing and...IDK. They'll show it. One day.

Date: 2010-12-05 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fromyourashes.livejournal.com
Also Castiel + Porn = LMFAO

I couldn't stop laughing. I like them bringing Castiel back to what I think they planned for him to be (way back when he was only supposed to be around for a few episodes): comic relief and deus ex machina.

Date: 2010-12-05 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ghoulchick.livejournal.com
I can only speak for me, but I would choose to save my kids over Mr.Ghoul, and he would do likewise. If he decided to save me over them, I would never, ever forgive him. Part of it is that they are kids and he's grown, and I would expect that he has a better chance of saving himself than either of the chicklets would.

It's also... it's really primal. I can describe it, but it's not the same as feeling it. Before I had kids, I remember wondering if I'd ever be able to do the things a person might have to do to, say, get away from an attacker - the things they teach you in self-defense classes, like shoving your thumb through their eye, etc. I didn't think I had it in me.

I remember holding newborn GhoulChicklet in the hospital, and the realization that not only *could* I maim or kill with my bare hands anyone who would threaten her, but I could do so with a song in my heart and never lose a minute of sleep over it. I knew in my marrow that I would put myself bodily between my baby and harm. I love Mr.Ghoul,and I would give my life for his, but it's nothing like this instinctual mama bear thing that got switched on once I became a mom.

Date: 2010-12-06 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
I like this reply. :)

Date: 2010-12-06 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
I was thinking the ropes think was a Boyscouts thing.

Holy crap, what I wouldn't give for flashbacks to Sam being deliciously badass and smirky and bloody

That'd be so fucking hot.

Date: 2010-12-06 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilshelly.livejournal.com
:sniffle::
Crowley is pretty much all I've liked for a long time.

although, i did enjoy Castiel watching porn and kissing Meg.
and then he burnt Crowley and I'm back to really not liking the character. at all.

Date: 2010-12-07 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Yeah, me too. I mean, I still like Sam ... mostly because of his face and hipbone area but yeah. I liked Crowley for being Crowley.

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