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certainthingsAbandon All Hope.
It's a little like beating a dead horse. But yeah, I wanna talk about why that thing happened or more how it came to be why that thing happened. Mmhmm. Okay, really? I want you to tell me the how and why because I'm still really confused by it.
Like I said in my review of the ep after it happened I was surprised that I got a wee bit weepy when Ellen and Jo died but deep down I don't really care that they died because well, I wasn't their biggest fan. But I still don't understand *why* they had to die. I mean, there's the 'This is serious. We're not fooling around. People are gonna dieeeeeeee during this APOCALYPSE, boy, howdy and don't you forget it!' thing of it all. But just. What?
Did Sam and Dean or Bobby and Castiel or any combination of them know who Crowley was before Becky mentioned him? Because it seemed to go a little like this ...
Becky: Bela's a liar! Crowley has the colt.
Sam: o.O
Dean: You wanna blow this popsicle stand and fuck this convention outta each other?
Sam: But first let me tell you where the colt is.
Castiel: Dude. He's making out with a guy. WTF is this?
Dean: Are you taping it?
Jo: I'm playing the role of the damsel.
Demon: Oh, let me be scary then.
Ellen: I'm tough but can't drink an angel under the table.
Sam and Dean: We're trying to trick you.
Crowley: Blow me. And after I'll wrap up the colt for you.
Yadda yadda ... Ellen and Jo are blowed up into bits.
And it just seems to be that if they'd done any research or tailed Crowley for a little longer it would've been more...
Becky: Bela's a liar! Crowley has the colt.
Sam: o.O
Dean: You wanna blow this popsicle stand and fuck this convention outta each other?
Sam: But first let me tell you where the colt is.
Sam and Dean: Uh, hi. We're here for the colt and possibly a tour of this lovely house you're currently residing in.
Crowley: It is rather lovely, isn't it? Come in and we'll have some tea and a chat before I hand over the colt.
Just. Seriously. Please tell me how and why exactly Ellen and Jo were there. I don't understand it. I mean other than for the above reason of "we're going to kill off people that are close to Sam and Dean. Suck it." which is stupid. I mean the word "apocaplyse" pretty much covers "bad shits a-happenin'
I know I'm being repetetive, I do.
Did they think about killing off Cassie or Lisa before they decided on Ellen and Jo?
"We'll bring Cassie back with Dean's love child! And have them ripped apart by a hell hound!"
"Sounds fantastic but how does that effect Sam?"
"Who? ... Oh, right. That other guy. Hmm. Okay. What about Lisa and Ben? That'll show Dean that this is Serious."
"Yeah, again. How does Sam fit into this because this has to hurt him too."
"Dammit!"
and on a little more until they remembered Ellen and Jo.
We're Ellen and Jo nearby? Did they have to drive a long way to die? Did Bobby phone and tell them what the what was or was it Dean or Sam? Did it take awhile to convince them or were they gung-ho 'chaaaaaaaarge' from the get-go?
But seriously. Please explain it to me.
It's a little like beating a dead horse. But yeah, I wanna talk about why that thing happened or more how it came to be why that thing happened. Mmhmm. Okay, really? I want you to tell me the how and why because I'm still really confused by it.
Join me on a new voyage of the mind. A little tale I like to call: Sam and Dean, Hunters of the Demons
Like I said in my review of the ep after it happened I was surprised that I got a wee bit weepy when Ellen and Jo died but deep down I don't really care that they died because well, I wasn't their biggest fan. But I still don't understand *why* they had to die. I mean, there's the 'This is serious. We're not fooling around. People are gonna dieeeeeeee during this APOCALYPSE, boy, howdy and don't you forget it!' thing of it all. But just. What?
Did Sam and Dean or Bobby and Castiel or any combination of them know who Crowley was before Becky mentioned him? Because it seemed to go a little like this ...
Becky: Bela's a liar! Crowley has the colt.
Sam: o.O
Dean: You wanna blow this popsicle stand and fuck this convention outta each other?
Sam: But first let me tell you where the colt is.
Castiel: Dude. He's making out with a guy. WTF is this?
Dean: Are you taping it?
Jo: I'm playing the role of the damsel.
Demon: Oh, let me be scary then.
Ellen: I'm tough but can't drink an angel under the table.
Sam and Dean: We're trying to trick you.
Crowley: Blow me. And after I'll wrap up the colt for you.
Yadda yadda ... Ellen and Jo are blowed up into bits.
And it just seems to be that if they'd done any research or tailed Crowley for a little longer it would've been more...
Becky: Bela's a liar! Crowley has the colt.
Sam: o.O
Dean: You wanna blow this popsicle stand and fuck this convention outta each other?
Sam: But first let me tell you where the colt is.
Sam and Dean: Uh, hi. We're here for the colt and possibly a tour of this lovely house you're currently residing in.
Crowley: It is rather lovely, isn't it? Come in and we'll have some tea and a chat before I hand over the colt.
Just. Seriously. Please tell me how and why exactly Ellen and Jo were there. I don't understand it. I mean other than for the above reason of "we're going to kill off people that are close to Sam and Dean. Suck it." which is stupid. I mean the word "apocaplyse" pretty much covers "bad shits a-happenin'
I know I'm being repetetive, I do.
Did they think about killing off Cassie or Lisa before they decided on Ellen and Jo?
"We'll bring Cassie back with Dean's love child! And have them ripped apart by a hell hound!"
"Sounds fantastic but how does that effect Sam?"
"Who? ... Oh, right. That other guy. Hmm. Okay. What about Lisa and Ben? That'll show Dean that this is Serious."
"Yeah, again. How does Sam fit into this because this has to hurt him too."
"Dammit!"
and on a little more until they remembered Ellen and Jo.
We're Ellen and Jo nearby? Did they have to drive a long way to die? Did Bobby phone and tell them what the what was or was it Dean or Sam? Did it take awhile to convince them or were they gung-ho 'chaaaaaaaarge' from the get-go?
But seriously. Please explain it to me.
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Date: 2009-11-25 07:10 am (UTC)* The episode needed more Crowley.
* I am so very bitter that the writers fucked up Jo's first appearance and ruined her character forever. (Sure, let's have Dean hit on her, then belt out a love song! The viewers will LOVE her. ...um, no.) Because I actually LIKED her later on, when she started hunting, and I would've liked her even more if only they would've also canned the Dean/Jo flirtation. IT'S CALLED SUBTEXT, USE IT AND LET THE FANS TAKE CARE OF THE REST.
As for your question, my theories:
* The writers like to take the easy way out. "Oh man, I'm bored with the psychic kids, lets scrap that shit and do something else." It's like the show is run by children, sometimes I think they don't even know what they're doing.
* Writers in general are attention whores, they want to affect the viewers, and what better way than to kill off characters? I call it The Whedon Syndrome. Joss killed off Buffy's mom and it was SO. GOOD., and since then he's kept killing off characters, trying for another The Body and missing by a mile, to the point where I'm just annoyed by the wasting of perfectly good characters. The SPN writer's room seems to be particularly cursed with this Syndrome.
* They're trying to drive the point home that Sam & Dean are all alone in this. It really is down to them. I'm betting Bobby and Castiel will bite the dust at some point this season too. Of course they're ruining a perfectly good universe with many interesting characters (from a fannish standpoint) in the process, but who cares! Why be subtle if you can be dropping anvils?!
Hm. Re-reading that, I guess I'm kind of bitter? *facedesk* I just, man, I keep thinking about this show and about how much better it could be and WOULD be if it were run by different people. :(