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certainthingsAbandon All Hope.
It's a little like beating a dead horse. But yeah, I wanna talk about why that thing happened or more how it came to be why that thing happened. Mmhmm. Okay, really? I want you to tell me the how and why because I'm still really confused by it.
Like I said in my review of the ep after it happened I was surprised that I got a wee bit weepy when Ellen and Jo died but deep down I don't really care that they died because well, I wasn't their biggest fan. But I still don't understand *why* they had to die. I mean, there's the 'This is serious. We're not fooling around. People are gonna dieeeeeeee during this APOCALYPSE, boy, howdy and don't you forget it!' thing of it all. But just. What?
Did Sam and Dean or Bobby and Castiel or any combination of them know who Crowley was before Becky mentioned him? Because it seemed to go a little like this ...
Becky: Bela's a liar! Crowley has the colt.
Sam: o.O
Dean: You wanna blow this popsicle stand and fuck this convention outta each other?
Sam: But first let me tell you where the colt is.
Castiel: Dude. He's making out with a guy. WTF is this?
Dean: Are you taping it?
Jo: I'm playing the role of the damsel.
Demon: Oh, let me be scary then.
Ellen: I'm tough but can't drink an angel under the table.
Sam and Dean: We're trying to trick you.
Crowley: Blow me. And after I'll wrap up the colt for you.
Yadda yadda ... Ellen and Jo are blowed up into bits.
And it just seems to be that if they'd done any research or tailed Crowley for a little longer it would've been more...
Becky: Bela's a liar! Crowley has the colt.
Sam: o.O
Dean: You wanna blow this popsicle stand and fuck this convention outta each other?
Sam: But first let me tell you where the colt is.
Sam and Dean: Uh, hi. We're here for the colt and possibly a tour of this lovely house you're currently residing in.
Crowley: It is rather lovely, isn't it? Come in and we'll have some tea and a chat before I hand over the colt.
Just. Seriously. Please tell me how and why exactly Ellen and Jo were there. I don't understand it. I mean other than for the above reason of "we're going to kill off people that are close to Sam and Dean. Suck it." which is stupid. I mean the word "apocaplyse" pretty much covers "bad shits a-happenin'
I know I'm being repetetive, I do.
Did they think about killing off Cassie or Lisa before they decided on Ellen and Jo?
"We'll bring Cassie back with Dean's love child! And have them ripped apart by a hell hound!"
"Sounds fantastic but how does that effect Sam?"
"Who? ... Oh, right. That other guy. Hmm. Okay. What about Lisa and Ben? That'll show Dean that this is Serious."
"Yeah, again. How does Sam fit into this because this has to hurt him too."
"Dammit!"
and on a little more until they remembered Ellen and Jo.
We're Ellen and Jo nearby? Did they have to drive a long way to die? Did Bobby phone and tell them what the what was or was it Dean or Sam? Did it take awhile to convince them or were they gung-ho 'chaaaaaaaarge' from the get-go?
But seriously. Please explain it to me.
It's a little like beating a dead horse. But yeah, I wanna talk about why that thing happened or more how it came to be why that thing happened. Mmhmm. Okay, really? I want you to tell me the how and why because I'm still really confused by it.
Join me on a new voyage of the mind. A little tale I like to call: Sam and Dean, Hunters of the Demons
Like I said in my review of the ep after it happened I was surprised that I got a wee bit weepy when Ellen and Jo died but deep down I don't really care that they died because well, I wasn't their biggest fan. But I still don't understand *why* they had to die. I mean, there's the 'This is serious. We're not fooling around. People are gonna dieeeeeeee during this APOCALYPSE, boy, howdy and don't you forget it!' thing of it all. But just. What?
Did Sam and Dean or Bobby and Castiel or any combination of them know who Crowley was before Becky mentioned him? Because it seemed to go a little like this ...
Becky: Bela's a liar! Crowley has the colt.
Sam: o.O
Dean: You wanna blow this popsicle stand and fuck this convention outta each other?
Sam: But first let me tell you where the colt is.
Castiel: Dude. He's making out with a guy. WTF is this?
Dean: Are you taping it?
Jo: I'm playing the role of the damsel.
Demon: Oh, let me be scary then.
Ellen: I'm tough but can't drink an angel under the table.
Sam and Dean: We're trying to trick you.
Crowley: Blow me. And after I'll wrap up the colt for you.
Yadda yadda ... Ellen and Jo are blowed up into bits.
And it just seems to be that if they'd done any research or tailed Crowley for a little longer it would've been more...
Becky: Bela's a liar! Crowley has the colt.
Sam: o.O
Dean: You wanna blow this popsicle stand and fuck this convention outta each other?
Sam: But first let me tell you where the colt is.
Sam and Dean: Uh, hi. We're here for the colt and possibly a tour of this lovely house you're currently residing in.
Crowley: It is rather lovely, isn't it? Come in and we'll have some tea and a chat before I hand over the colt.
Just. Seriously. Please tell me how and why exactly Ellen and Jo were there. I don't understand it. I mean other than for the above reason of "we're going to kill off people that are close to Sam and Dean. Suck it." which is stupid. I mean the word "apocaplyse" pretty much covers "bad shits a-happenin'
I know I'm being repetetive, I do.
Did they think about killing off Cassie or Lisa before they decided on Ellen and Jo?
"We'll bring Cassie back with Dean's love child! And have them ripped apart by a hell hound!"
"Sounds fantastic but how does that effect Sam?"
"Who? ... Oh, right. That other guy. Hmm. Okay. What about Lisa and Ben? That'll show Dean that this is Serious."
"Yeah, again. How does Sam fit into this because this has to hurt him too."
"Dammit!"
and on a little more until they remembered Ellen and Jo.
We're Ellen and Jo nearby? Did they have to drive a long way to die? Did Bobby phone and tell them what the what was or was it Dean or Sam? Did it take awhile to convince them or were they gung-ho 'chaaaaaaaarge' from the get-go?
But seriously. Please explain it to me.
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Date: 2009-11-25 04:32 am (UTC)As for why Ellen and Jo? I think it boils down to them knowing how to hit us. Kill anyone else I wouldn't have cried buckets like I did for the Harvelles, especially given the parallel between Jo's death and her father's. Even if they would have offed Bobby, they would have had to REALLY work it, push it, sell it to get that kind of emotional reaction (from me, natch, I can't speak for anyone else).
And in the end, I think that's what they wanted, something visceral and unwanted right when they sign off for 2 months to keep us invested emotionally.
As far as the Crowley thing the ONLY reason that worked for me is because Mark Sheppard ROCKED it, like he rocks everything he touches.