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Supernatural 4x04 Metamorphosis


Lorne: Hey. Something troubling you, bubby?
Groo: Indeed. I am confused.
Lorne: About what?
Groo: Angel. His inaction puzzles me. When Connor was taken from him he moved heaven and Tarkna to try and win him back.
Lorne: Yeah, he sure did. Hence our weekly scrubbing of the lobby floor.
Groo: But now that his son is here, he does nothing.
Lorne: Well, sometime nothing is the best something. If a thing is meant to be somethimes it is best to just let it happen rather than try to force it.
Groo: But if a thing is meant to be then how can it be forced?
Lorne: Well, I guess it can't.
Groo: And if a thing is not meant to be?
Lorne: Well, then it really can't. Just because someone hops a dimension or two is no guarantee that things will work out. - Well, aren't you just sneaky with the subtext?


I liked this ep. Mostly. I don't, I can't and I will not accept that Sam and Ruby are sleeping together. I just ... I don't get how that's a thing.

I would've liked for Sam to hit Dean back but I guess we can't always get what we want. However it was nice that things are now known.

This was the ep that myself, [livejournal.com profile] culturegeek76 and [livejournal.com profile] gimlisgloin saw being filmed.

[these things from when we were watching the filming]

When the guy (now known as Jack) was sitting on the bus stop bench, I said that it was because he was waiting for the bus and that he really wanted to go to Dairy Queen and the bus was late and so he was phoning Sam and Dean to ask for a lift.

They spent a good fucking long time getting the scene set up and then shooting the scene of Jack climbing the fire escape to look look in the girl's window.

There was a stunt double who was all harnessed up and had a helmet on, he was hoisted onto a garbage bin and then from there he sorta jumped up to the fire escape and yeah.

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For the show I thought they would've photoshopped out the garbage bin ... though I guess you couldn't really see it and I thought they would've showed more uh, stunt action. There was a crane that they had to rent and I know that Russ was kind of irrated about the whole thing because of the cost and I'm sure others were too and for just that to be shown? Bah. I mean, obviously I know that they can't show 'Hey, look we got this guy harnessed and here's the crane that's going to lift him up.' But there could've been something.

I know that they don't film things in sequence but I don't get why they don't or couldn't film Sam and Dean getting out of the car and then running to the girl's apartment together. Jared and Jensen were standing in the street before they started running. The video clip I uploaded of them standing around, that's where they were before they ran. Maybe they were back a couple of feet but that's only a maybe.

When Sam and Dean were running to the apartment I turned to [livejournal.com profile] culturegeek76 and jokingly said, 'Wow, that was really good, I actually believed that they were running.' But on the show? Yeah, not so much. I mean I get and saw that they were but seeing it in person? It WAS actually more believable. For serious.

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That's the apartment building and the under appreciated garbage bin. Jared was sitting by the doors of the aparment building talking and/or texting on his cell when he tried to stand up three times before someone helped him up.

It took the girl screaming about 4 or 5 takes (she screamed when Sam and Dean weren't around) and each time it was horrible. I was told that they were going to dub over it and make it better. I'm glad they did.

Yeah ...
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Date: 2008-10-10 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quiet-rebel.livejournal.com
Interesting Angel quote there...

I wish the show would just tell us if Sam and Ruby slept together, but I guess there would be no suspense. But still! Enough with the implications every week!

Thanks for the inside info. esp with all the equipment and stuff. That entire scene lasted like 30 seconds and they brought in a crane, stunt double, and all that fancy stuff. That's show business, I guess.

Date: 2008-10-10 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goingvogue.livejournal.com
It took four to five takes to get screaming in terror at someone breaking into your house right?

...yikes.

Other than that, COOL!!!!

Date: 2008-10-10 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwendolynmstacy.livejournal.com
Interesting... and ITA on Sam & Ruby.

Date: 2008-10-10 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonicbookmark.livejournal.com
I desperately hope that Sam and Ruby aren't sleeping together. I can accept alot from this show but that...no.

Date: 2008-10-10 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apostrophee.livejournal.com
don't, I can't and I will not accept that Sam and Ruby are sleeping together. I just ... I don't get how that's a thing.


Yes! Thank you and goodnight!

P.S.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goingvogue.livejournal.com
"I can't and I will not accept that Sam and Ruby are sleeping together. I just ... I don't get how that's a thing."

THIS.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muses-circle.livejournal.com
I'm living in Denial-land, where the dark things Sam and Ruby do in the dark is just the demon-killing and Sam's mind-whammy there. Nothing sexual. NO. Do. Not. Want.

Very neat that you got to see this episode being filmed!

Date: 2008-10-10 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bigmamag.livejournal.com
I sincerely hope it's Kripke fucking with us, because gross. SHE'S NOT EVEN A GOOD ACTOR. I'd at least TRY TO SEE ICKY, POINTLESS, POSSESSED GIRL IN THUR, FUCKING HER EVEN THOUGH HE DOESN'T TRUST HER, WTFNESS OF THIS PAIRING if she'd at LEAST be a damn good actress. But she's pointless, that plot line is pointless, and it needs to go away and if they are screwing, fuck Kripke for thinking that this was a good idea at all. I'm so annoyed with that shit that even one of the boys screwing Bela would have been better!

Date: 2008-10-10 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
They just cannot be.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
*nods* It did. And they still had to make it sound better because she was crap.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
It seems to fit with things, a little here and maybe possibly in the future.

Hear hear. I just hope it's a "no, we're not."

They were setting up for ... hours. And then yeah. Bah.

Re: P.S.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:15 am (UTC)

Re: P.S.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goingvogue.livejournal.com
It's slang for I Agree 100%.

I don't know where it came from.

Re: P.S.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Oh, well then okay. :)

Re: P.S.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goingvogue.livejournal.com
If Sam and Ruby are doing the horizontal, I will lose my shit.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hotfuzz85.livejournal.com
ITA on the Sam/Ruby thing.

RAEP I go for, RAPE is a no-no.

Re: P.S.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
I'll be really disappointed in Sam.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
Right there with you

Date: 2008-10-10 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
It just wouldn't be SAM if they were and yeah

Date: 2008-10-10 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
If they are it will be completely unacceptable

Date: 2008-10-10 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
I just don't want it because I cannot see Sam a)raping someone and/or b) screwing a dead girl

Date: 2008-10-10 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com
The biggest and I just will not, cannot, etc. not believe that Sam would do that.

Re: P.S.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goingvogue.livejournal.com
I'll be truly disappointed in Sam, and ultimately Kripke, which I've only been twice, and that was for Bela and Ruby.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hotfuzz85.livejournal.com
Exactly. The little bit we know of Sam's character proved him to be a real upstanding guy. KRIPKE, YOU ARE GOING TO HARSH MY SQUEE IF YOU DON'T STOP WITH THIS SHIT.

Hold me baby.

Date: 2008-10-10 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doublehelix20.livejournal.com
But Dean and Cas? Yes?

...I was kinda happy they didn't pull any punches with the cannibalism.
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