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- If Sam was a chubby 12 year old, when did he get chubby? When he was 12? A month before?

- How old was Sam in '91? Dean would've been 11ish, no? And wouldn't that put Sam around 9? Didn't John give Sam a gun when he was 9? Was this after Christmas?

- ETA: Okay, I thought they were 2 years apart. Not four. Why, I thought this, I do not know. Still, I thought Sam looked like he should've already had that gun for the monsters in his closet.

- Poor young Sammy.

- I love that Sam gave the amulet to Dean. And I love that I said, "the amulet" before Dean opened it. It's rare that I call these things. I need Colbert to teach me his ways.

- "We're here to watch." Ahahahahha.

- Evil!Santa reminded of "The Breather" from Student Bodies, and if you haven't seen that movie you really really should.

- "Why do they always run away from me? It's the galoshes. They're a dead giveaway. Why do I wear them? It isn't even raining!"

- "Hasn't there been enough senseless killing? Let's have a murder that makes sense!"

- ... I should stop copying and pasting quotes from the movie.

- Rose Abbot being all evil! I bet Harold drove her to it. *nods*

- The ending. Oh, God. Oh, boys! *hugs them* *cries*

- So I really really enjoyed this episode. Like a lot.

- But. Uhm.

Kripke: What I really rub my hands together in glee about is that we are far and away the most violent Christmas special in the history of television.


Violent compared to what? A Charlie Brown Christmas? Sure parts were a bit gory but I wouldn't call it "violent". Unless you were one that called It's a Wonderful Life violent.

Date: 2007-12-14 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pushingyouaway.livejournal.com
- How old was Sam in '91? Dean would've been 11ish, no? And wouldn't that put Sam around 9? Didn't John give Sam a gun when he was 9? Was this after Christmas?

i was thinking the same exact thing!

oh boys! oh show!

Date: 2007-12-14 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurondo.livejournal.com
I was expecting the episode to be just as "violent" as the last one, but nope. Sad to say I was a tiny bit disappointed with that too, lol.

I read that Sam is supposed to be 8 and Dean 12, which makes no sense, but this is what I've been told.. so... yeah.
Edited Date: 2007-12-14 03:27 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-12-14 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fromyourashes.livejournal.com
They're 4 years apart. But yeah, Sam DID look about 9. So I'm going with, John found out a few days later and THEN gave him a gun, yeah.

Date: 2007-12-14 03:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] titti
Sam was born in may of 83, which makes him 8 and Dean is born in Jan. 79, making him almost 12. Yes, I'm a date freak, sorry.

The ending was heartbreaking.

Well there was some torture with the nail pulling and ewww.

Date: 2007-12-14 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lalita82.livejournal.com
I was thinking the same thing too, Sam look almost the age of Dean. ://

So I really really enjoyed this episode. Like a lot. SO DID I!!

A very gory Christmas a bit, no?!?

Date: 2007-12-14 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apey1013.livejournal.com
Yeah, there were a couple little inconsistencies in the flashbacks that made me twitch but I made myself turn a blind eye. I mean Sam WAS younger than that when John supposedly handed him the gun for the monster in the closet, right?

Young Sammy's rockin' the emo AND the bitchface. Boy started quick.

I was so glad that is was the amulet and I called it, too. Yay, we're learning!

Sam needs to work on the whole "thinking before speaking" thing, eh?

I missed the first few minutes of the ep so when I saw evilnot!Santa come down the chimney I was bouncing up and down chanting "eat the kid eat the kid chomp on that adorable child!"

The ending: AGREED. *hugs them*cries*hands them gifties and booze-laced eggnog*

I think It's a Wonderful Life is violent to my braincells. Fucking Capra...

Date: 2007-12-14 03:34 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] arabella-hope.livejournal.com
I like the singing and the bleeding and the end and the wee!ones and the funny-awkward and I didn't think I liked it that much but. Apparently I did.

Date: 2007-12-14 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cityphonelines.livejournal.com
And I love that I said, "the amulet" before Dean opened it. It's rare that I call these things.

Same. Here.

Hmmm... 8 year old Sam must've picked up a mean Funyuns habit between then and 12 if he was a chubbers at 12. *waits for Funyuns addict!Sammy fic*

Date: 2007-12-14 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emerald-nebula.livejournal.com
I don't know whether to be happy or sad! I should be happy because that episode was made of win but I'm sad because boys make me cry.

And now I've just remembered the awkward Christmas!porn ('you can jingle my bell') and I think happy is beginning to win.
Edited Date: 2007-12-14 04:15 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-12-14 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bubbles83.livejournal.com
My mom called the amulet thing too. The whole episode left me so happy that it's like I'm on a fluffy cloud of awesome.

The thing that got me was Sam getting his nail ripped off. That is one of my fears, so seeing it happen was just GAH making.

Date: 2007-12-14 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] citibyrd.livejournal.com
Ohhhh, she played Rose Abbot! I knew she looked familiar. Thank you!

Loved this episode. It was all heart-clutchy!
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Date: 2007-12-14 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uglyduckling-me.livejournal.com
and what about Sapphire Barbie? now we know where Sam's doll fetish obsession mild, passing fancy comes from...and it's all because of Dean!

*looks around* I was the only one that remembered the doll thing from Playthings, wasn't I? *sigh* I have to stop being such a geek like that...

Date: 2007-12-14 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pippilottah.livejournal.com
Sam was chubby when he was 12? Huh...

Evil Santa made me think about Anya and when she told Dawn that Santa was real (I don't remember it exactly but I believe she said he was evil and killed children or something like that)

Were you doing Colbert victory arms when you called it? I didn't see it coming at all but I loved it!

Date: 2007-12-14 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agt-league.livejournal.com
Oh show. *clings*

Date: 2007-12-14 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gottalovev.livejournal.com
If Sam was a chubby 12 year old, when did he get chubby? When he was 12? A month before?

that's a great point, because yeah, wee!sam was on the skinny side. but I loved your explanation above! lol!

Date: 2007-12-14 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kilynn16.livejournal.com
Rose Abbott! thank you. I could not for the life of me remember where I knew her from.

huh, I thought this ep was a lil low on the gore/violence. was a bit disappointed, to be honest.

but you know what makes up for it? boys!!!

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