Supernatural : 6x06 : You Can't Handle The Truth

[certainthings]

So, some spoilers for this ep but mostly I think I want to talk about the promo for next week's ep.


I liked it.

I did not like Bobby saying that Dean was his favourite. I want him to like them both equally.

I like that Lisa is done with Dean. I hope her and Ben stay gone. They don't really have a place on the show.

I do not understand why Jared's acting is so not ... well, good. I mean, he looks like he's lying, he looks insincere. Which, I get that he WAS and IS. Only, he's supposed to look, sound ... seem like Sam. And he just wasn't at all. And why didn't anyone (on the show, obviously) pick up on this shit? Why did Jared choose to go that route and not just do his normal Sam act and maybe change something *slightly*.

Ugh.

If Dean had punched Sam once, perhaps twice, I might have understood that. But punching the shit outta him? I didn't like it. Made my insides all ouchy.

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And now. Spoilers based on the promo.

So, Sam doesn't have his soul. I don't think that explains why Sam has no emotions or feelings. Bobby didn't have his soul for awhile and he was still Bobby. Why is Sam different? Is he more prone to evil because of who he is or is his soul trapped in hell and being influenced down there? Does a soul really make that much of a difference on what your character is like? Or is having no soul just a real good excuse to be a right bastard?

Comments

[fromyourashes.livejournal.com]

I'm gonna add one thing, a point for Dean. The only reason I could possibly begin to understand for him beating Sam like that was because he lost Lisa and Ben as a result of being turned. If THAT turns out to be why, if he says, "Look, maybe I was a little rough with you, but I lost my ~family over this mess," then I can sympathize. But he should have broken ties immediately after the shapeshifter situation, so I don't think I'll have THAT much sympathy. He knew what could happen, and he should have let them go. It's not like he was with them for very long, anyway. I've had fits of mania that lasted longer than their relationship, lmao.

Anyway, just trying to be a little LESS anti-Dean, trying to see both sides of the fictional situation. >.>

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

I was going to link you to donna_c_punk's review on the ep because she says things so very well and much better than I ever could but she's all flocked so I'm just going to copy/paste.

"I will say Lisa finally got off the stupid pills. I was shocked as fuck she didn't go, "Oh, it's okay, Dean. I understand, you're my big strong hero. Ben's a little bastard anyway and probably deserved it." If there was one person who needed to stop lying to herself, it was her. However, big surprise, Sam's the one Dean blamed for it. I mean, I guess that's why he beat the shit out of him at the very end. I can't think of any other possible explanation, since, for her, the shoving Ben deal was the last straw. But, really, she flatout-ass told him that she knew it was over as soon as Sam walked in her front door. HOW IS THAT SAM'S FUCKING FAULT? He doesn't control Dean's fucked up codependence issues."

[fromyourashes.livejournal.com]

Oh, I LIKE all those words together like that, making sense and shit.

He doesn't control Dean's fucked up codependence issues

A-FUCKING-MEN. Everyone (people who watch the show, people who write the show, characters ON the show) continually attempt to shove down our throats how completely codependent the boys are on each other, but that's bullshit. Sam left. And stayed gone. Several times. The only one with dependency issues is Dean. Sam does just fine on his own.

[donna-c-punk.livejournal.com]

...attempt to shove down our throats how completely codependent the boys are on each other

This show is getting big on retconning and revisionist history. Esp. this season, which I suspect may be Gamble trying to put her own personal stamp on the canon. What there is of it anymore. Things that were not present quite obviously in the earlier seasons, such as the codependency, we're suddenly told is fact, was fact and always will BE fact. I didn't see them presented as codependent people in the first three seasons. Like someone said above, they shared a strong family bond, dysfunctional as it was, but unique in how it was formed. If these things had never happened to them, they wouldn't have had the dynamic they did then. Out of left field, we're continually told they're codependant. I'm like, "I don't think that word means what you think it does, guys." But the writers don't listen to me. If they did, Castiuseless would've been outed as a demon posing as an angel by the middle of season four and stabbed in the fucking face with the knife by Sam.

[fromyourashes.livejournal.com]

The shallow woman inside me tolerates Sera for her ability to make me forget I actually AM in it for the plot, but mostly I wonder if she took on more than she can handle.

"Castiuseless" is the best thing I've heard all week, thank you. I love Misha, but when they finally kill off Castiel, I don't think I'm going to be doing much in the way of mourning his loss.

As for Sam and Dean's dependency upon one another, I think the writers are taking the moments where one brother was worried about the other brother's impending death/pain/distress, etc, and labeling that as codependency. You're probably right, in that they don't completely understand the meaning behind the word. Hell, I'm getting tired of looking at it, myself, and ready to change its meaning.