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[certainthings]

I don't read a lot of meta when it comes to Supernatural or any show really because, wow, it's really wordy (most of the time). And who has the time for that? And thinky thought words at that too. Ouch. Plus, the few times when I do read it, it always seems to be about how Shiny and Perfect Dean Winchester is and booo to that shit. But then there are times when I wish I had the words and thinky thoughts to write meta and have people read it and say, 'Ahhh' in an Eddie Izzard type voice but I hardly ever do. Then again, I do love looking for the Buffy Quote that fits the scene. The homage to Buffy that was done and how Buffy did it so much better. Because I am a biased bitch.

I read some meta the other and it was All About Dean. There are spoilers for 5x01 under the cut but nothing beyond that.

I don't remember where the meta was and I don't remember much of what I read other than how it was about Dean being Angry and how was Right to be Angry. Which, okay. Maybe he's allowed to be a bit angry but I really fucking hope that we learn that a lot of his anger towards Sam is actually directed at himself. He is aware that he (Mr Pefect 'Pin a Gold Ribbon on His Chest' Wincester) helped start the apocolypse, right? Seriously, I'm asking. I have a vague memory of Zachariah? Some other angel? A demon? telling him that his breaking the seal down in hell was what got the ball rolling.

If Dean (and/or Castiel and/or Bobby) are just all on board with Blaming Sam and pointing fingers at him and shitting on him ... I'm going to be really fucking pissed.

My hope for this season is that Castiel plays along with Dean and Sam but secretly he's kind of evil. We learn that him (Castiel) and Ruby were lovers and they were both playing Sam and Dean. They both wanted Lucifer to rise and now that he's all risen Castiel's mission is to seek revenge (on Deaaaaaan mostly) for killing his girl.

*crosses fingers*

- please don't spoil me for any upcoming eps.

Comments

[annabeth.livejournal.com]

It was Alastair who told Dean that he broke the first seal, and I'm pretty sure that Castiel later confirmed it.

I'm going to be Tragically Sad and Very Pissed if everythingone (*is an idiot*) just blames Sam for the whole season.

I can't take the constant negativity towards Sammy. It makes my heart sad. D:

[giantlovetingle.livejournal.com]

What's that saying? When you point a finger at someone else, don't forget you've got three pointing back at you? Dean best take note of that. And I'm not taking sides, but yeah, they're kind of all to blame for Lucifer walking around giving people man-periods.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

I like that.

And yeah, they are. *throws shoes at them*

[gwendolynmstacy.livejournal.com]

OH. OH.

If Dean (and/or Castiel and/or Bobby) are just all on board with Blaming Sam and pointing fingers at him and shitting on him ... I'm going to be really fucking pissed.

Me too, but I think you know this because yeah okay fine Dean can be angry whatever but, but my main issue with 5.01 was how, like, people were offhandedly blaming Sam over it. Dude, I'm sorry, they both hand a hand in it and that includes Dean starting it because IMO in "Head on a Pin" at the end is when (good ole buddy *rolls eyes*) Castiel tells/confirms for him that he started it.

And yes, I too wish he were kind of evil. I seem to like some better that way. But even if he was I probably would not like him better, might get him brownie points, but I still won't like him better.

Your box is gooooooing towards you *thumbs up. &hearts *

[laurondo.livejournal.com]

It was Alastair who told him and then Castiel confirmed it. But yeah, I would really like for Sam to find this out reallllllllly soon.

[malcolm-stjay.livejournal.com]

Awwwwwwwesome icon. :D

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Riiiiiiight. Thank you.

I'm going to Very Pissed and Probably A Lot Confused if all the blame is directed at Sam.

[alwaysenduphere.livejournal.com]

The amount of time I spend comparing Buffy to Supernatural for people who have seen one and not the other should be cataloged so I can get paid for royalties.

I'm'a be pissed at Dean if he never tells Sam how he was the first seal.

[breathe-me27.livejournal.com]

I know what you mean about the majority of meta being all about Saint Dean and his epic journey. It bugs the hell out of me.

I accept that in the first couple of episodes are going to include a lot of blaming Sam. I don't like it but I accept it. But if the whole season continues that way, I am going to be MAJORLY PISSED OFF. Okay, so Sam fucked up. Dean fucked up too. CASTIEL fucked up many, many times (hellooo he was the idiot who let Sam out of the panic room). Everyone fucked up and instead of placing all the blame on Sam, they need to accept responsibility for what happened and move the hell on so they can start fixing it.

[lavendergaia]

I'm one of those people who writes a lot of meta because I can't sleep unless I get thinky thoughts out of my head, but that meta sounds more like "I'm a Deangirl and I must constantly validate all his poor decisions and douchebag actions." Alastair told Dean that he broke the first seal and Castiel told him it was true, but other than that, I don't think he's told anyone, so I feel like Bobby and Sam will continue blaming Sam (if not out loud, than mentally) because Dean refuses to come clean because Dean hates himself for it and if he can be in denial, then it didn't happen and none of this is his fault and how dare Sam do anything to bring to light what he was trying to hide. And see, I'm totally doing it again, sorry for the random meta.

I really wanted Ruby to be evil in season 4 when she got boring as hell, and if they want to follow that up with Castiel, I'd agree. But I don't think Kripke would do that because all he'd hear was the murderous cries of the crazies and not the rest of us laughing our asses off in the background.

[je-suis.livejournal.com]

Dean does know he broke the first seal, so I think you're right that part of his anger is really at himself and not Sam, but I think the anger towards Sam isn't necessarily "You started the apocalypse, asshole!" but rather, "You listened to a DEMON over YOUR OWN BROTHER." In which case, Dean really does have every right to be pissed as hell at Sam. That is what I have interpreted his anger as being about, anyway. Not the apocalypse but just Sam choosing Ruby and listening to Ruby over Dean, given the fact that Dean has basically spent his entire life trying to protect Sam and give him what he wanted, not to mention y'know, going to hell for him, and for Sam to listen to the word of a demon over Dean was more than adequate reason for Dean to be pissed off.

[kellifer-fic.livejournal.com]

Trufax.

People just have to remember that Dean was the original Sam-girl. :D

[sonicbookmark.livejournal.com]

ALL OF THIS, YES.

My hope for this season is that Castiel plays along with Dean and Sam but secretly he's kind of evil.

I just want him to die and not like Buffy!die but like Sirius Black!die were it is PERMANENTLY-FOR GOOD-AIN'T NO COMING BACK FROM THIS ONE, BABE.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

I'd like that very much.

Also it'd be kind of neat if as Castiel was playing Sam and Dean Sam and Dean in turn were playing Castiel.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Dean needs to remember this also.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Oh! Yes, thank you for mentioning that, that was something else I was also going to talk about but completely forgot about. *makes a note to ramble about it later*

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

I can understand that, if I had thinky thoughts in my head I'd probably want/need to write them down too.

I loved S4 Ruby the bestest so I didn't think she was boring or anything but I was torn between wanting her to be evil and wanting her to just be in love with Sam and wanting the bestest for him (them) and not just sorta in love with Sam but mostly using him to get Lucifer out and about.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

If it doesn't turn out that Castiel is secretly evil and no one finds out that he's the one that let Sam out? Heads are going to roll.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

You should let Joss and Kripke know this.

Maybe Sam will get tired of all the blame being thrown in his face and he'll start down that dark road again and when he's ready to destroy the world Dean will be all, 'Uh, hey. I gotta tell you something before you destroy the world. I might have maybe started the whole apocalypse thing."' And Sam will laugh a bitter sort of laugh and maybe say, 'Nice try, Dean.' And Dean will say, 'No. When I got off the rack in hell, when I started to torture the others ... that was the first seal. I broke the first seal.' That's when Sam will punch Dean in the face.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Thanks :)

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Ahh, thank you.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

It just doesn't make any sense to me that Dean's not feeling responsible at all, I mean he doesn't even look like he feels guilty at all and usually Dean looks guilty for things he has or had no control over but this? He had control. Yanno?

\o/ \o/

[lavendergaia]

There are sometimes when I'm talking to someone about something and I'll try to go to bed and get up like four times just to send more emails. It's a curse.

I really loved Katie!Ruby, so the changes to Ruby's character in season 4 were a disappointment to me. I did like that she turned out evil though.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Oh and yeah, me too. I won't like Castiel better but his over all being aroundness would be more acceptable and tolerated if he's evil.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure that I've ever read a meta about Sam. Maybe I'll have to suss one out sometime and see how I feel after reading it.