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Supernatural 4x16 On The Head Of A Pin

Supernatural 4x16 On The Head Of A Pin

(quotes from other sources, deleted lines, and questions and comments.)

Criminal Minds
Hotchner: [paraphrased] Boo. It's all my fault. Hoo
Rossi: You think this is all your fault? That little voice in the back of your head isn't your conscious it's your ego.

Dane Cook: So take your dress off and end this little tea-party.

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Castiel: I was getting too close to the humans in my charge. You.

And I know some people thought, 'Ooh. Slashy!' But I thought -

Quentin: Your affection for your charge has rendered you incapable of clear and impartial judgment. You have a father's love for the child, and that is useless to the cause.

* * *

Alastair: [paraphrased] You broke the first seal. Neener, neener, neener.
Dean: Come again?
Alastair: Oh, honey. You haven't made me come yet.

* * *

Dean was in hell for 40 years his time and 4 months our time, yes? No? Maybe it was six months? John was in hell for a 100 years his time but around a year our time, right? Now, I'm a horrible at math but something is wrong there, right?

How did Castiel not know that angels are the only thing that can kill angels?

Not that I want him to be dead but after Uriel said, 'There is no God.' ... Why didn't God smite him down?

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I really liked Sam's growly voice - and I think it's because he doesn't over use it.

There's this thing I didn't like that much about Dean during the torture scene - [whited out for those that don't want to read] HIS FACE. No, I don't really mean that ... Wait, I totally do. I WANTED to like it but he (Jensen) does this thing with squinting his eyes or something and he tries to look all menacing and I just wanna laugh at him (and I do) - I don't think he looks good at all. I know that others do and that is great, I wish I felt that way. But he's got this constipated look and in my other post

not_sally mentioned "soap-opera!Dean" and yes, that. That long overly dramatic soap opera look. I want to find Dean attractive again. -

I noticed that Castiel didn't/doesn't blink that much. Those that have met and/or seen Misha in person does he blink like a normal person?

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yeah I was confused about the whole hell math thing too, if Deans 4 months = 40 years, that means John should only have been in hell 10 months. but it was more then that?! idk D:

growly Sam is sexy
yeh Dean whole other issue D:

Edited 2009-03-21 02:26 (UTC)

Maybe one of them stumbled into some time warp part of Hell.

Quentin: Your affection for your charge has rendered you incapable of clear and impartial judgment. You have a father's love for the child, and that is useless to the cause.

YES. THIS.

Even though Misha has joked about the ho!yay! between Castiel and Dean I don't see it. But then I believe in Dogma angels and Castiel is built like a Ken doll in my brain.

I want Jensen to have a ugly!crazy role in something (SPN, a movie, another show, whatever), something like Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys. Just something where he drops the heartthrob undertone to whatever he's doing. I think he was just about there in MBV3D.

Maybe it's because I don't want to notice the slash but I really don't notice it. I just sometimes see Castiel being creepy when he invades Dean's personal space.

Just something where he drops the heartthrob undertone to whatever he's doing.
YES. PLEASE.

I agree with the creepy space invasion, like literally, it's almost like an alien that knows not of human ways, not of an angel that has been observing humankind since the beginning. And I like that. But then I'm one of the few, I think, that's enjoying the arc so...

I really wish Jensen would just FORGET he's pretty for awhile. I mean, sometime I forget he's pretty, why can't he???

*throws hands up over Hell math* I thought John was in Hell for a little over 6 months (Nov. 4 '06-early May '07) and Dean was in Hell for almost 5 months (May 1 '08-Sept 18 '08). Maybe Hell-time doesn't need to follow, like, rules 'cause it's hellish or...yeah, I got nothin'.

If there actually is some sort of God in the SPN universe I don't think he's all that bothered by Uriel's shit talking. After all, he didn't really do anything about the other angel murderers, either. I mean, if SPN was gonna have a smite-y God then don't you think he would've stopped the cray-cray before it went too far?

I actually like that Castiel doesn't blink that much. He doesn't seem to be too experienced with possessing humans and I don't think it would occur to him to make the "vessel" blink (since, being an angel, I don't imagine he would need to normally). I am possibly reading too much into this.

Oh, okay. So it makes even less sense than I had previously thought. Good to know.

This is true, but then maybe God just didn't like those angels for whatever reason. :p

That makes sense. I don't dislike that Castiel doesn't blink, just something I noticed is all.

Maybe those angels kept drinking the grace straight from the carton and then putting the empty back in the fridge.

That would not surprise me.

You pretty much win. And I love this format! With the paraphrasing and deleted lines. Makes everything so much quicker and clearer. ;D

\o/ I do like winning

I don't even understand Hell Math!Show Wise. I tried to figure it out but maybe it was only 5 to 6 months John was in Hell but then again that wouldn't make sense because 4 months = 40 years. Hell I don't know. IMO, for me, non show wise (and book wise) I like to think it's 1 month=100 years but then again I took that thought of having no sense of time in the Pit out there.

I'm finding myself wondering if Kripke needs a calculator. EVEN I can't understand his logic.

If there is SPN!God I do not think he's paying too much attention or is too busy to care about Uriel. Sure, Lucifer was cast out (and probably Uriel would have been too) but he probably just said 'Eh I'll let her kill him instead of dealing with another one' because I'm pretty sure that he's had to deal with ALOT more than that over the years. *shrug* I can see him sitting at a desk leafing through this kind of stuff like 'I'll get to that today. Now where did I put my key for the 'Winchester' cabinet?'

Quentin: Your affection for your charge has rendered you incapable of clear and impartial judgment. You have a father's love for the child, and that is useless to the cause.

THANK YOU. I rewatched tonight and Castiel is so friggin blinded by humanity it isn't even funny and he doesn't even realize it all that much.

this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBNr6BI2zm8) is how Kripke adds. (around the 1:00 mark) True fact.

The SPN!God is totally like that.

LOL! I'm beginning to think that is definitely true.

He is. He really is.

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Yeah, I didn't actually think his personality was anything like Castiel's.

Dude, don't do that! Do you know what it feels like to be reading an entry and find your username in the whited paragraph? It was like walking into a room and have people stop talking to stare at you, and you know they were talking about you and you have no idea whether they were dissing you or planning your surprise birthday party!

Heh, sorry. I didn't realize your user name would show up like that.

Not that I want him to be dead but after Uriel said, 'There is no God.' ... Why didn't God smite him down?

Yes, this confused me too. I was waiting for the lightening strike that never came. FAIL, GOD. :|

And I noticed Castiel doesn't blink a lot either! What is up with that?!

God is on notice!

Clearly Castiel is a freak.

Now, I'm a horrible at math but something is wrong there, right?

That's what I thought too..but John crawled out of hell at the end of season 2 when the gates were opened right? So maybe he got out before he could break?

I spent way to much time thinking about this...

Oh, yeah. I believe that John didn't break and that's fine. I'm just confused at why time moved differently for the both of them.

LOL, SPN!math is a scary concept. I'm pretty sure what happened was something like, "John was in hell for one season equals one year equals one hundred years. Dean was in hell for hiatus which is kind of like three months which is like thirty years kinda." The saddest part would be if they made it, like, accurate? Then half of the fandom would be like, "WUT SO CONFUSED!" <-- this would include me, as math hates me. Hardcore. ;)

Loving the quotes and the outtakes. Alastair was not rly impressed by ur torturing, Dean. :D

I like your math thinky thoughts.

Your affection for your charge has rendered you incapable of clear and impartial judgment. You have a father's love for the child, and that is useless to the cause. THIS. Exactly what I thought Castiel was thinking about. No slashy thoughts in my mind :P

Why didn't God smite him down?
... I still believed someone ducktaped God's mouth shut and someone's up there in heaven, disturbing the peace.

ahah i *think* i know what you mean, I uh.. miss Dean's baby face? :D

Riiiiight. I'm sure.

Ahaha. Maybe, but if God invented duct tape (or created the person who invented it) then he can do the opposite, no?

How did Castiel not know that angels are the only thing that can kill angels?

I have no idea. You'd have thought that would be first in the Angel Handbook.

That's what I said to my aunt. Not that it'd be first but that it'd be in the handbook.

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