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certainthings ([personal profile] certainthings) wrote2008-08-02 11:21 am
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these things are not related.

As you may have read on your flist some guy was randomly stabbed and beheaded while travelling on a Greyhound bus. It's shocking, horrible, tragic and many other strong words.

And so now there's a page dedicated to him over at Facebook. Which, personally isn't my cup of tea but whatever. The part that I do have a big problem with though is this -

"If any of his family or friends join this group I want you to know I will have u in my thoughts as Tim is now in a better place."


Okay. Just. No. And fuck you. Do NOT use "u" as a freaking word on a page like that, in a post like that. That is tacky and well, stupid. Also? Maybe YOU believe he's in a better place and that's great but don't tell the family that, don't tell people that cared about him that. You don't know what they believe. Maybe they don't believe in a better after life, maybe they were Satan worshippers, maybe this and maybe that. And if they do believe in a better after life ... I don't know that someone would really want to hear that so soon after something so digusting happened.

Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

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It's possible I had something else to say but I don't remember what it was or could have been.

[identity profile] onelittlesleep.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
haha, I actually have strong christian beliefs! But I think a lot of churches are based on very trauma-inducing, shame-inducing shit that has less to do with God and more to do with bad interpretation and power. What that priest said was APPALLING. Especially because children go through a very important, incredibly life-changing stage, when they realize their parents are mortal and have to learn to deal with that. Telling them not to be SAD is like, negating that ENTIRE experience!

Also, being SAD about not being with someone doesn't have to have anything to do with accepting a higher power. If I lost my husband or child, I would be eternally sad just for missing them. Would I STILL believe they were with God? Yes, in my own way that I experience God, I would. But that doesn't ALTER my sadness. Loss is profound. You can't just believe it away. No matter what happens to loved ones after death, the sadness comes with them not BEING there. That won't change! And that's also why I think death is for the living in a lot of ways. It's for those left behind to struggle.

[identity profile] blind-acrobat.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree on every possible way, and I also agree on the fact that dogma can have a negative impact on faith.

[identity profile] onelittlesleep.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! My friend is Catholic, and the dogma she experiences in her church offers her a very powerful tool for...examining her beliefs and relationship with God. Experience of God should come first, and dogma should only guide it or support it. But usually, it happens the other way around and I just don't get how people build faith from that.