certainthings: (Sam and Dean (but a circle goes on)
certainthings ([personal profile] certainthings) wrote2010-09-24 07:11 pm

Supernatural : 6x01 : Exile on Main Street


STAN! Hi, husband! Hi! I've missed you.

He's so wonderful and beautiful and he should be funny and snarky and creepy in every ep all the time.

Clearly, he was my favourite part.

Jared's delivery of, 'Yeah, I'm back.' was so so very amusing. It was a very casual, 'Hey, you got your haircut.' kind of delivery.

CORIN NEMEC I LOVE YOU. Forever and always.

Corin Nemec was on an episode of CSI:Miami with Nicki Aycox. (They played husband and wife.) And since she was on Supernatural and played an evil character I'm saying that Corin's character on Supernatural is going to be evil. Yep.

Sam sounds different, I mean his way of talking does not his actual voice.

I kind of wish Lisa had burned on the ceiling for realz.

Oh! That uh, Gwen girl kind of looks like a young Sigourney Weaver.

I don't really get the whole Grandpa thing and him being back how convenient that there's more family that hunts and yadda yadda.

* * *

I've never been to hell, she said stating the obvious. So, I have no idea how I'd react if I were to go there and come back. But from what I've seen on my television? So far my favourite and what I think is the best reaction is Angel's. One, he was naked. And two and more importantly he wasn't all fine and dandy and/or pretending to be. He was all twitchy and couldn't really talk and other such things. Plus, he was put in chains for a bit there.

[identity profile] muses-circle.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
That uh, Gwen girl kind of looks like a young Sigourney Weaver.

Really glad I'm not the only one who thought that.

One, he was naked. And two and more importantly he wasn't all fine and dandy and/or pretending to be. He was all twitchy and couldn't really talk and other such things. Plus, he was put in chains for a bit there

THIS.

[identity profile] uglyduckling-me.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't watch the ep yet (aside from 1 or 2 snippets throughout), but I agree about Angel's stint in Hell & his return probably being the best I've seen so far. Heck, even Buffy's reaction to being back after being in HEAVEN was better than either Sam or Dean's back-from-Hell emoting. That's just my opinion though.


btw, I thought Grandpa was dead? Didn't he get stabbed back in the 70s before/after/during being possessed? whaaaat....

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
She should play a younger version of her in a movie sometime.

Right? I mean ... if Kripke is going to keep on paying homage to Whedon, he should borrow those kinds of things.

[identity profile] muses-circle.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
I for one could handle Sam being all "insane from the Hell and torture" times with chains and nakedness. Mm Mm Mm. Keep me vaguely amused and interested, anyway.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Heck, even Buffy's reaction to being back after being in HEAVEN was better than either Sam or Dean's back-from-Hell emoting. That's just my opinion though.

YES! It's a very good opinion. You actually reminded that once upon a time I had thoughts about her return and Sam and Dean but I don't remember what they were at all now but yeah.

I thought Grandpa was dead?

I'm pretty sure that he said something about being back and something but honestly? I wasn't paying attention at the time.

[identity profile] eilan.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Stan what?
Wait, I know I know what you're talking about, but I'm momentarily confused.

I kind of wish Lisa had burned on the ceiling for realz.
I don't disagree with you. I'm still on the fence about her.

[identity profile] uglyduckling-me.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
I don't remember what it was either but it could probably be summed up "Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Still Doing It Better, Even 6 Years After the Show Ended". Or something like that.

Which isn't to say I'm not enjoying SPN! I am, I really am. But there are a lot of things that SPN has tried to do that kinda...didn't work as well as it could've and that even half-assed, Buffy did better. Simple fact, imo.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Back before YED had a name, I named him Stan.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
but it could probably be summed up "Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Still Doing It Better, Even 6 Years After the Show Ended"

*snorts, guffaws and rolls with laughter* I'm sorry, perhaps that was a tad overdramatic, just. It's so very very true.

But there are a lot of things that SPN has tried to do that kinda...didn't work as well as it could've and that even half-assed, Buffy did better.

I'm really extremely biased when it comes to Buffy so this is extremely biased but HELL TO THE YEAH. Even Buffy's weaker eps were better than most of Supernatural's eps.

I fucking miss BtVS so much more when I watch Supernatural. I can't help but think, 'This would've been better written, better acted ... better everything on Buffy.'

I love Jared and Jensen, I do. But they don't emote well or sometimes they over emote. I mean, I'm not sure that Jared's, 'Yeah, I'm back.' was meant to be so ho hum. Watch the ep and tell me!

[identity profile] uglyduckling-me.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
I am biased as well. I don't mind, since you're biased and we can be biased together. haha

I think if Jared & Jensen had the benefit of working with Joss and a larger cast, things would definitely improve all around.

As soon as I watch it, I shall report back ;)

[identity profile] alwaysenduphere.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Lots of Jared's deliveries were amusing to me. I don't know how much if that was Sam supposed to be all different and just...me trying to take Jared seriously. :|

Sam's reaction to Dean's 'how was hell' question bothers me. I mean, I know it's supposed to. But it BOTHERS me.

MEH.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm just really confused by a lot of Sam tonight. Like is he a different person or is Jared trying out some new acting thing?

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
*high fives*

I dunno, I think them just working with Joss and the writers and directors that were on BtVS would improve Jared and Jensen even without a larger cast.

Go watch! Hurry!

[identity profile] resounding-echo.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
I lost my shit the most when Stan!YED showed up, no lie. It was a combination of fright and excitement, mixed with general fangrrl squee.

Sam is verah different, and it's quite intentional, I think. I don't the the Campbell family makes things "convenient" at all--in fact, I think it's going to be quite an obstacle to overcome and I think eventually it will be the Winchester Bros VS the Campbell clan. Sammy sounds different because granpops & co are bad hunter influences. They are to Sammy what Gordon was to Dean, only way less sexy. Trufax.

I'm mostly excited 'cept I'm a little leery of all the "we are the only ones to escape from hell" retconning. It makes no sense not to at least have Deanna too (other than they couldn't afford another actor) and really I would have much prefered getting Adam back. Eventually he'd had to die (again) or something because he couldn't permanently get between our boys, but it would have made some awesome angst.

Ah, glad I got that out of my system. I was too lazy to write up my own post and now I don't have to. :)

ETA: Lisa's...a difficult character. Must tread lightly with female characters in this show (especially romantic ones) but she can't step into 'Sue territory. I don't think she's a Sue (yet) but I find her being so understanding a little frustrating. I would have clawed at Dean's ear in that staircase scene, no lie. I like the actress though. She conveys a lot with her non-verbal acting.

What's difficult is that I bought it from Dean's perspective (he just wants the place markers of "wife" and "kid" and would let anyone willing fill those roles) but her's is more...sticky. I get that she wants a good role model for her kid but on the flip side I would think she'd be so concerned with her kid getting attached that she wouldn't allow someone in Dean's position (life-threatening situations, no stability, shaky past) in her home. Hm.
Edited 2010-09-25 04:40 (UTC)

[identity profile] resounding-echo.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
Heck, even Buffy's reaction to being back after being in HEAVEN was better than either Sam or Dean's back-from-Hell emoting.

Word to your mother.

Didn't Dean spend forty years "hell time" in the pit? He'd come back crazy, yo!

[identity profile] alwaysenduphere.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Probably a combination of the two. IDK but I don't like it. I don't think.

[identity profile] agt-league.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Stan is YED yes?? :D LOVE him. Second best part of the ep imo.

Sam sounds VERY different. I don't know. :/

And I don't know how Grandpa is back either. I'm just so confused about that whole thing.

Sam should've been naked. UH HUH.

[identity profile] not-sally.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
OMG you kill me.

Ok, YES, STAN IS BACK!
No, for realz SPN, how about you bring him back? It's not like bringing people from the dead is such a hardship, and Fred ROCKS.

I squeed so hard when I read his name, and Mitch and Corin's!!
I propose as follows, S1 Demon-Revival: Nicki should totally be Corin's... whatever, I don't even care, just bring them all together and keep them alive or undead, evil or not, who cares.
They're awesome.

And yeah, the whole "I'm back, not a demon, let's get our brotherly hug out of the way, yeah?" was a bit... disappointing, to put it mildly, for me.

Also, I most definitely agree with you on the whole Angel-type-of-hell thing. I mean, Lisa even mentioned that Dean had survived the apocalypse, so she didn't expect him to be just dandy living RL, but if this is as far as PTSD goes on SPN land, I'm gonna start believing their version of hell somehow resembles Southpark's.

[identity profile] apey1013.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
When Stan showed up my reaction was a combo of utter GLEE and cursing the writers for bringing back a character/actor (possibly not for the first time this season?) that will most definitely keep me watching. Oh, STAN. I missed you!

I'm pretty sure Grandpa & the Cousins (which sounds like a lame punk band) are Shady with a capital "Sh."

Sam, meanwhile...there's something definitely up there. I'd like to think that Jared's performance/his face during the hug were deliberately shifty/off & not Jared just completely half-assing it.

[identity profile] lotrabc.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, both Sam and Dean's post-Hell experiences have involved a distinct lack of naked feralness. Although, fingers crossed on the nakedness at least. We still have to see the rest of the pull-ups scene. And then rewind it obsessively just in case it's all we get.

I miss YED so much. If anyone should be resurrected, it should be him. He could school every other villain on the show in awesomeness to the max.

I don't know if I need Lisa to burn, but I kind of want her and the kid gone like yesterday. Do not care.
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[identity profile] santacarlagypsy.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
I love your review. :)

And this: CORIN NEMEC I LOVE YOU. Forever and always. ~ So very true for me too! ♥

[identity profile] werty30.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 10:36 am (UTC)(link)
Sam would look great in chains.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
He really would.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you.

He's so wonderful.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, that is true. But with Angel we got a little bit of ass. And that was a real nice thing.

YES! He really should come back. Forever.

Mmhmm, the show is about TWO brothers hunting. Or well, it used to be. I miss that.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I squeed a lot when I saw him and then the scene where he was waving? I waved back.

Yeah, they must be. I wonder if they're real. Bit odd that we haven't really heard of them until now. (Other than Grandpa) Oooh. I wonder if they're all secretly The Key.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd be such a happy girl if Stan was brought back for good.

S1 Demon-Revival: Nicki should totally be Corin's... whatever, I don't even care, just bring them all together and keep them alive or undead, evil or not, who cares.

Brilliant. I love it.

I'm gonna start believing their version of hell somehow resembles Southpark's.

Hahahaha. So, it's just where Hitler and Satan hang out, argue and have gay sex? I don't actually know that much about Southpark's hell.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods* Stan is YED.

I hope they show us things and explain things. And not just casually mention something Important several eps later.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
-in fact, I think it's going to be quite an obstacle to overcome and I think eventually it will be the Winchester Bros VS the Campbell clan.

!!! I hope this happens.

. I get that she wants a good role model for her kid but on the flip side I would think she'd be so concerned with her kid getting attached that she wouldn't allow someone in Dean's position (life-threatening situations, no stability, shaky past) in her home.

Hadn't even thought about that. I'm still not sure why we should care about her at all, like why Dean likes her ... and likes her enough to play house. I mean all we really got was a mention of good sex and well, I don't know that that's really enough.

I really like your thinky thoughts on the ep.

[identity profile] agt-league.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope so too. Otherwise that would be lame. :/

[identity profile] resounding-echo.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
To me it seems so obvious that the Campbells are slated to be antagonists that I will be surprised if it doesn't happen. I think that's why Sam felt so "off" the entire ep--because he's been under their influence and not Dean's. And I think it was heavily implied that they do stuff to the supernatural beings. They keep them to experiment or something? Didn't Samuel and a cousin take one of the Djinns? And remember how Dean saw the back of that van and how it had a cage and shackles?

Plus, I think Sera--though she'll fuck with us a bit--knows her fangirls and knows that the relationship between Sam&Dean is the heart of the show. She won't create any permanent wedges between them.

As for Lisa, I do like her. Or rather, the role she represents and how she's written now. I liked her as a stand-alone-never-to-be-revisted-again character in "The Kids Are Alright" but the beginning of that ep is so rocky to me. It's creepy that Dean wants to look her up again, and I completely didn't buy it. She was better in that ep because she was more guarded from him and really only let her guard down in that last scene where she invites him to stay (for the record, I do think Ben is Dean's kid and she was testing him to see if he'd stay on his own accord).

I think the main reason why this relationship is playing out so weird is because she was never supposed to be anything more than a stand-alone character. When they brought her back in "Dream A Little Dream of Me" it was still a little "what, her?" but then I thought that, really, Lisa was just a place-holder that now had a name. Kinda like that beer ad woman in "What Is and What Never Should Be?" It's not any particular person, but just someone who can fulfill that role. And Lisa is the most obvious choice. It just seems so forced because it is--the writers had to inject her into a few episodes before the end of season five because they realized too late how to utilize her fully. So I'm trying to be more forgiving and give it a few eps to prove itself. I like Lisa right now, but that could change if they don't tread carefully (this includes making her too perfect).

[identity profile] harleymae.livejournal.com 2010-09-28 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't Dean spend forty years "hell time" in the pit? He'd come back crazy, yo!

Just one of the bazillion reasons I can't take the show even half as seriously as it wants to be taken. :P