Supernatural : Point of No Return

[certainthings]

Dean: Before Dad died…he told me something. Something about you.
Sam: What? Dean, what did he tell you?
Dean: He said that he…he wanted me to watch out for you. Take care of you.
Sam: He told you that a million times.
Dean: No, this time was different. He said that I had to…save you.
Sam: Save me from what?
Dean: He just said that I had to save you. Nothing else mattered. And if I couldn’t, I’d…
Sam: You’d what, Dean?
Dean: I’d have to kill you. He said that I might have to kill you, Sammy.
Sam: Kill me? What the hell is that supposed to mean?
Dean: I don’t know.

* * *
Dean: Sam, when Dad told me that I might have to kill you…it was only if I couldn’t save you. Now, if it’s the last thing I do, I’m gonna save you.

I liked the ending, it seemed like maybe, just maybe them boys might stand up and fight. Together. I think I'd enjoy seeing something like that.

I'm pretty sure I enjoyed Castiel in this as well. I know I liked him beating up Dean and I did like him saying, "I don't have the same faith in you as Sam does." [paraphrased]

I don't really understand the whole 'Oh, Adam. You're so swell and we love you. Please don't die.' thing they had going. HE WAS DEAD. THEY DID NOT KNOW HIM. But whatever. I hope he stays dead this time.

I am hoping that Dean's change of heart at the end was real because his whole, "I don't believe in you." thing was full on full of shit and and STFU, Dean Eugene Winchester.

I don't understand his thinking there or what the writers want us to be thinking with that.

I mean Dean's already made nice with Lucifer and lived to tell the tale. So, even if he didn't believe in Sam if he really thought that Sam was going to say yes ... wouldn't he want to fight Sam as himself. Get to him that way? "Human weakness never goes away." And all that jazz. And I know it's a different ball game but I like to think that if Sam was wearing Lucifer - that he'd still be in there somewhere.

I dunno.

Oh, and why does next week look like a filler?

Comments

[muses-circle.livejournal.com]

This late in the season, you'd think they'd focus solely on the story arc. But yeah, I think next week is a filler.

At this point, who knows what the end of the season will bring. At this point, I see there being a "get out of the Apocalypse free" card. Look at what happened tonight. Dean said "yes" but he got out of it? How'd that happen?

[laurondo.livejournal.com]

I liked that Castiel said that to Dean, too.

And I think it was more that Adam is family, half or otherwise, and since the Winchesters are always about how important family is... they didn't have to KNOW him, y'know?

[dancetomato.livejournal.com]

why does next week look like a filler?

This.

[resounding-echo.livejournal.com]

Wow, I haven't seen a new episode since before the cupid episode (although I did see part of that zombie episode).

I have no idea what's going on, and I'm too lazy to dl the eps to figure it out. Hm.

[bigmamag.livejournal.com]

It does look filler-ish next week, though you know, Changing Channels looked to be simply filler until it the trickster turned into Michael and the episode went downhill into boredom country from there. :)

[littlestclouds.livejournal.com]

Next week looks absolutely disgusting. :S

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

I didn't notice that.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Oh, well. NOW I'm looking forward to it. :p

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Part of me wants to tell you to download and watch cos boys are pretty and the other part is saying, 'Ehhh, fuck it.'

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Maybe secretly it's not.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

It was a good line.

I wish I did know but I really don't. Adam didn't/doesn't give a rat's ass about them. He was in Heaven. He seemed like he was kind of happy. And I mentioned elsewhere ... Why couldn't Sam and Dean have told him about Ash?

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

I see there being a "get out of the Apocalypse free" card.

I hope you mean like a literal card like from Monopoly.

Dean said "yes" but he got out of it? How'd that happen?

He winked! Duh. And weren't his hands behind his back? He probably had his fingers crossed. "How'd that happen?" What a silly question.

Yeah, okay. I have no idea.

Also, when they were in the car, I don't remember what the hell they said but I do know there was a moment when I wanted Sam to say, 'Yeah, I said yes a week ago.'

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

I may have cheered a little myself.

[gwendolynmstacy.livejournal.com]

Next week looks like a filler ep and c'mon it's 519 there's only 4 (it's a 22 ep season again as far as I know) left and it's getting kinda...ridiculous? IDEK.

I liked the ending too, honestly but..

I don't really understand the whole 'Oh, Adam. You're so swell and we love you. Please don't die.' thing they had going. HE WAS DEAD. THEY DID NOT KNOW HIM. But whatever. I hope he stays dead this time.

No offense to Jake Abel or whatever but IMO they only brought Adam back as a way for Dean to get out of saying yes, whatever. I hated it when I realized it and it still bothers me for some reason. Also at certain parts I wanted to give Adam a whack upside his head. He honestly annoyed me a bit and I don't feel bad in agreeing with you that I hope he doesn't come back. But looking at it one way I suppose Adam got what he wanted from Michael or whatever. Hope he's happy.

I apologize if this comes off as... bitter? Adam, now that we kinda know him irked me, IDEK why but he did

[tinkabell007.livejournal.com]

I was cheering SO HARD as Cas wiped the floor with Dean! Man, it was sooo overdue. Go Cas.

I liked the whole episode and the ending really gave me hope for the future!! <3

"Human weakness never goes away."

I miss Faith. :-/

[resounding-echo.livejournal.com]

Right? It's not that I don't care, it's that I'll care a lot more once I have the dvds in front of me and I can watch it at my utmost convenience. I've always said an audience is more forgiving if they don't have weeks (or months) of time between episodes to think and nitpick it to death (I'm looking at you, later seasons of Buffy that I still love).

[apey1013.livejournal.com]

Ahhhhh. This one was satisfying. The ending, especially, for reasons you stated, as well as Castiel beating up Dean. Not just that he beat Dean up but also that he asserted himself like that and reminded Dean (and by proxy the other characters) that he's not just their errand boy and that joining their side meant a lot of sacrifice on his part.

I think Bobby could stand to get in a few punched on everybody, too.

Next week probably is filler. I guess the writers needed to come up for air after this last little drama or maybe they just want to use a standard MotW episode to exercise the newly reunited SamnDean dynamic. *shrug* There's, what, 4 episodes left in the season? Maybe they only had story arc for 3 and they needed to put the filler next week so the 100th could be special.

[not-sally.livejournal.com]

I don't think Cas got the whole "pulling someones' pigtails" idea right.
Kidding, he was totally a BAMF.
I loved it. It wasn't just a necessary episode, we deserved it.

(And as for the Lucifer thing, I think actually Lucy being in Sam's body would mean bye-bye Sam [that's what Michael implied in 5x13? when he said he wouldn't leave his vessel a vegetable "unlike (his) brothers" which would include Lucy, right?)

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Oh, I think that in the end Sam would die or go reign o'er hell or what not but until the battle was over and through, I'm choosing to believe that Sam would still be in there or at least the essence of Sam. And I am sticking to that. :p

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

that he's not just their errand boy and that joining their side meant a lot of sacrifice on his part.

I hadn't even thought of that. And it's a good point, I just wish he'd do more with his rebellion than stand around, look constipated and try and out Batman voice Dean.

You want Bobby to punched or throw a few punches?

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

It was damn good, I wouldn't have minded if it had went on for a bit longer. I think Dean looks the most attractive when he's bloody and/or dirty.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Right? Like if we can just yank family members outta heaven why not phone John Winchester?

[agt-league.livejournal.com]

The ending also pleased me. If it went any differently I might be feeling D: with a little bit of >:( right now.

Castiel was AWESOME. \o/ Thank GOD he beat Dean up because Dean really needed it.

LOL EUGENE??? LOLLLLL ILU SMIDGE.

[gwendolynmstacy.livejournal.com]

IRK? It bugs me that Adam was clearly just the square in this situation to get Dean out of saying yes just barely. VERY TACKED ON, Y/Y? IDEK, maybe I am being harsh (it feels like 'oh we forgot we had him I know we'll bring him back to life! Only he'll not be a zombie. GENIUS!') but while I thought Jake was good with what he had to work with I just couldn't stand the actual non!ghoul Adam too much. *nod*

He got what he asked for from Zachariah when he complained about being lied to. So, if he hates being Michael's vessel(if he is or if he died again, IDEK - is that open to interpretation or did he just flit off LOL (?)) tough I say. He was asking for it to begin with. (You know I'm normally never this mean about things like this LOL)

I would have rather saw John though, seriously. That would have been good. Don't get me wrong, I liked the episode alot, alot, and yeah but that one thing is bothering me.

[apey1013.livejournal.com]

Ugh. Typo. I mean I think that just like Castiel beating up Dean was satisfying, Bobby deserves to punch some people, too. He looked about ready to in the " you're not my father" scene.

[brianshanelvr.livejournal.com]

Oh, and why does next week look like a filler?

It does, doesn't it? Gr.

[essene.livejournal.com]

Dean Eugene Winchester

LOL. You win. *thumbs up*

[muses-circle.livejournal.com]

I hope you mean like a literal card like from Monopoly.

Is there any other kind? I bet Dean carries it around in his wallet.

I do know there was a moment when I wanted Sam to say, 'Yeah, I said yes a week ago.'

'Cause it would totally be worth the look on Dean's face. Also, EVIL!POSSESSED!SAM is AWESOMEEVIL.

[lotrabc.livejournal.com]

LOL @ Eugene. I couldn't be mad at Dean in this ep. His woobie face is working for me again, and I was just waiting for him to be healed by the power of love, WHICH WAS AWESOME.

Angry as fuck!Castiel is pretty interesting though.

While I loved the convo at the end, its occurrence with four eps left is making me a bit apprehensive. O.O

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

I dunno why I chose that name but it seemed to fit at the time. This gives me hope that maybe one day his woobie face will work for me again, instead of me wanting to hit it and tell him to 'toughen up, cupcake.'

Castiel should use the violence more often.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Heh. Thanks.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

*growls with you*

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Right? Like maybe just have the dogs on stand-by just in case.

Hmm, interesting. I wonder if it's just coincidence or if they've been watching closely all this time. Or just a good guess that a younger brother would be a "snot nosed little brother." *ponders*

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

Dean DID need that beating, and Castiel did a great job on it too. I very nearly almost want to applaud him.

Hahaha. It seemed like a good name.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

I totes agree, it was very tacked on and pulled out of ass and ridiculous and stupid.

I had hoped he died again but then I read your "or did he just flit off" and now I'm kind of hoping that happened.

[uglyduckling-me.livejournal.com]

This ep had it's Yellow Crayon moment and I can't say I was impressed with it. But hey, I liked the wink. *shrug*


And woah! Why hasn't Castiel been this awesome before now? Angry and drunk in two eps? Someone's working on character development and depth!


I had other thoughts, but I've forgotten them.

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

The wink was all right.

Perhaps they've heard our cries that standing around licking Dean's boots and telling us what the weather was, just wasn't making us love the character.

[sevenandthree.livejournal.com]

i enjoyed how dean just kind of left adam there and went for sam i was like "YEAH, WHO'S MORE IMPORTANT? NOT YOU!"

[certainthings.livejournal.com]

That was rather nice.