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certainthings ([personal profile] certainthings) wrote2008-08-14 12:45 pm

John Shelby Spong said...

Bishop Spong: First you need to develop an understanding of God other than the supernatural parent figure who lives above the sky and is waiting to come to your aid. Christian prayer is not an adult letter to Santa Claus. Second, you need to understand the nature of the world in which you and I are living. It is not a world of miracle, magic and divine intervention, but a world of order, natural law and precise mathematical formulas that enables us to predict with total accuracy the tides, the time of sunrise and sunset and even eclipses of the sun and moon. We can send spacecraft to the moon and to the planets as far out as Jupiter because we know the laws by which such things as motion and gravity operate. Prayer must take place in that kind of world.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2008-08-14 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought the same thing.

[identity profile] jenniferkaos.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
this has nothing to do with this post but I wanted to ask you a question. :) I noticed on your profile page you had a list of testimonials. How did you come about that? Were they things that were said throughout time or did you make a post about it?

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
There was a meme awhile back. :)

[identity profile] not-sally.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
Of course Christian prayer is not an adult letter to Santa Claus! Everyone knows that while angels are fine and dandy, elves can totatly kick their ass at making cool things.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
Hee.

[identity profile] tabularassa.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
Right on, yo.

[identity profile] tastylilgifty.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. And thank ou Bishop Spong, for ensuring me that I am not, in fact, crazy... but neither am I a bad Christian.

Very, very accurate depiction of how I've always felt right there.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
*pumps fist in the air*

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2008-08-15 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I love him so so much.

[identity profile] bigmamag.livejournal.com 2008-08-17 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Very good quote, I approve heartily.

[identity profile] certainthings.livejournal.com 2008-08-17 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
I likes it.